Season 2 - EP #7 - Tony the Penguin, media wars and Dusty’s decision

Season 2 - EP #7 - Tony the Penguin, media wars and Dusty’s decision

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S2E7_1

[00:00:00] Wayne: I'm Wayne Cary, and this is The Truth Hurts. Well, here we are again for The Truth Hurts, Episode 7, can you believe it or not? And, uh, well, Big Red, or Bluey, or Donald Trump, or Oompa Loompa, or any of those, uh, names that you want to call, uh, Tony Sheehan. Tony, good to see you, you look pretty good today. Well, I look a Monday morning, good to be back on a Monday.

[00:00:25] Tony: It is great to be back on a month, yes, obviously we had the Easter Bunny appear last week, Wayne, so, you were looking after the kids and the chocolate 

[00:00:31] Wayne: rounds? Tell me this, I'm a, I'm a little bit confused, everyone knows if you, uh, have been living in Melbourne, Melbourne's had just about the best weather in Australia, in the last, in the last two months, the weather has been unbelievable here.

[00:00:46] Wayne: Yes. I know you've been back and forth and you're a bit of a, uh, you know, bit of a traveler traveling wilbury and you get around here and there, but it has been amazing. And I walk in here today and it's a beautiful morning in Melbourne and you've got an umbrella with [00:01:00] you again. Yes. . Well, I walk around like you're the penguin off Batman, Wayne, same bill wine, you know, same bill as the P one.

[00:01:08] Wayne: What do you, why do, is it because you wanna be trendy? Is it a little 

[00:01:13] Tony: bit 

[00:01:13] Wayne: of both? 

[00:01:15] Tony: People in Sydney use umbrellas as a little bit of a fashion 

[00:01:18] Wayne: statement. What tosser walks around with an umbrella when it's a beautiful day outside? 

[00:01:24] Tony: Let me Uh, make a comparison. If you thought it was cold outside, you might take a jumper with you.

[00:01:31] Tony: If I think it's going to rain, I'll take an umbrella. And then these days in Melbourne, because the rain is constant. 

[00:01:38] Wayne: This 

[00:01:38] Tony: is a 

[00:01:38] Wayne: great topic. What, what percentage when you, you know, look into your, uh, your iPhone, your app, and you know, you look at the weather, what percentage does it have to be for you to carry an umbrella around?

[00:01:49] Tony: Anywhere above 30, I reckon. But Joe, look, if we are going to rely on the iPhone, you wouldn't know whether you're wearing shorts or a duffel coat. 

[00:01:57] Wayne: You, that is unbelievable. I don't know [00:02:00] anyone that just carries an umbrella around for the sake of it. Well, anyway. Is it a Sydney thing? Are you bringing, 

[00:02:04] Tony: are you trying to bring a trend down to Melbourne?

[00:02:06] Tony: Yes, I am. Well, because now that I'm back living in Melbourne, I thought, well, acclimatise and walk around with an umbrella. And? If you walk around in a nice blue suit, thanks to the boys at Rochford in Sydney, and you carry an umbrella, a lot of people Look at the branding of the umbrella. If you 

[00:02:24] Wayne: were going to be that big a toss, Yeah?

[00:02:26] Wayne: Go back to Sydney. Well, maybe I should. Because you don't walk around with an umbrella. Now, for all Start raining, get your umbrella and put it out. If you have to. I know why you probably Yeah, anyway. Go on. Hey Wade, now what about Hang on, 

[00:02:40] Tony: what, what's something wrong with the hair? No, well, is that, 

[00:02:43] Wayne: is it because you don't want to get your hair wet?

[00:02:45] Wayne: Well, pretty much, yeah. 

[00:02:47] Tony: I've got 100 shampoo, I've got 30 wax. So you, so not even 

[00:02:51] Wayne: a, you know, if you haven't got your umbrella, you, you know, just a little bit scared to get a little bit of rain between the car and the, wherever you're going. Yeah, a 

[00:02:58] Tony: little bit of paranoia. I've got to work out [00:03:00] which Shops to run into.

[00:03:01] Tony: Hey now, by the way, we were talking about AFL runners a couple of weeks ago. 

[00:03:05] Wayne: Yep. 

[00:03:05] Tony: Uh, you're not going back and working for Arden Street, are you? You've got your Rube Boyd t shirt on, which looks like it's one of your kids. What's going on? Or has Nike decided to re sponsor you? Do you like the, uh, 

[00:03:16] Wayne: I've always been with 

[00:03:16] Tony: Nike.

[00:03:17] Tony: Do you like this colour? The colour? What, did you grab your bicep? The colour's, the colour's 

[00:03:22] Wayne: grandiose and outlandish. Well, I went to the gym first, so that's why. Bye. So you're not running 

[00:03:27] Tony: for the Roos this year? Clarko hasn't 

[00:03:30] Wayne: called you? I told ya. Good players shouldn't run. Fair to say I won't be running.

[00:03:34] Wayne: Now talk about good weather. Let's move on. Good weather. Good weather. We've been in Adelaide. And a big show. And I know we've mentioned this leading up to the Gather Round, but we were actually amongst the Gather Round for the first few days. I tell you, we 

[00:03:47] Tony: were, we was. 

[00:03:48] Wayne: It is an unbelievable event, and I know there's talk, Tassie coming into the comp, maybe Tasmania could be a state that, You know, took on gather round.

[00:03:58] Wayne: No. There is, there's [00:04:00] even talk that there could be multiple gather rounds in one year. See, that's. I can see that. But I think that's stupid. As you say, that's rhubarb. It is rhubarb. If you look at all the other states, Perth, okay, Perth, you could do it over there, I think. In saying that though. In saying that, it's too far away.

[00:04:19] Wayne: It is. And given the prices that people were paying for flights to get to Adelaide and everything else, and the amount of people that drove, they're not driving from Melbourne to Perth. It's closer to Bali. So it's too far, too far away to have it in Perth. Yep. Sydney's not a football state. Correct.

[00:04:31] Wayne: Neither is Queensland. Yeah? Yeah. You agree with Yeah, I do. I, I think it's just got to stay in Adelaide forever. A bit like Anzac Day. A bit like Queen's Birthday, a bit like Good Friday, which North Melbourne should have forever, and I know there's been some debate around that, but they've, they're set in concrete and Gather Round should forever remain in Adelaide and let them build on this.

[00:04:55] Wayne: And I'll tell you what, their Premier, Peter Malinowski, is that how you pronounce it? Very good [00:05:00] pronunciation. Peter Malinowski. He, he is, he's brilliant. He's seriously an 

[00:05:04] Tony: impressive man. He was so good this weekend that 5 million Victorians were calling for him to come back and live here. Well, not come back, to come and live in Victoria.

[00:05:13] Tony: Is he, is he born and bred South Australian? I reckon he must be. Well, I think he 

[00:05:16] Wayne: is. His popularity over there is at about 90%. And he can handball too. I sat in a function where he was the speaker. Yep. That was on Friday. That was on Friday. And Max Gorn was a speaker and Geoff Brown was there and you had, you know, a heap of different.

[00:05:32] Wayne: Uh, I flyers and guest speakers and I was, I was just a guest and on a table and I sat back and listened to him speak articulate, smart, funny, good looking, you know, Oh boy. Since when have you said that about a better, a politician and state and to top it all off after he spoke. You could see, the room almost wanted to stand up and giving him a standing [00:06:00] ovation.

[00:06:00] Wayne: The whole room clapped, everyone on my table, and there were some smart cookies on that table, and they all, they all just said, um, you know, how great he was, what a great job he's doing, the way he spoke about Gather Round, he spoke about the AFL, um, and how hard, how hard they are to deal with at times, and just trying to get things across the line.

[00:06:19] Wayne: But Just the, uh, the amount that has improved this year with the, you know, more people coming, obviously the food and wine festival at Norwood yesterday, which I wasn't there for, but apparently that was huge. Uh, I mean, just everything about it was sensational. People walking around, you saw Brisbane jumpers, you saw Carlton jumpers, Collingwood Hawthorne, and it was, the place was a buzz.

[00:06:44] Wayne: It was a really good vibe. The only thing that I reckon They stuffed up over there, and it wasn't their fault, it was the AFL's fault. Which is? And that was, what do you reckon? The score review system, 

[00:06:57] Tony: that's Well, before we go into the score [00:07:00] review system, Duck, we've, we've got to extend, I've actually got to, uh, turn around and say, what you just said cannot be faulted for what the South Australian government did, the AFL, the broadcasters, and the fans, it, we were only there for three days, but it was an incredible vibe, it was great city to be in, the weather was fantastic, and by and large, for the majority of the football was 

[00:07:22] Wayne: pretty good.

[00:07:22] Wayne: You know what I do also, love, when you get the football media in the one place at the one time. So you had everyone there. You had channel 9, channel 7, channel 10, but you had the morning shows. They were all doing, they were down on the river. Everyone was there. So you walk around and you bump into all of these people.

[00:07:39] Wayne: And like I said, there's that many lunches and functions and everything and you know, you can see that, you can see those even amongst their peers, those that, uh, you know, they Sort of think fairly highly themselves in the way they walk around. , you get a name, somebody, and those that are a little bit, you know, they, they go a little bit sheepish Yeah.

[00:07:56] Wayne: Within the group. And it, it, it is amazing. And then you've got, well we, [00:08:00] we ran into the Fox Boys and had a couple of waters with them the other night. Yes. I, we saw Jay Ner and we saw David, David King and David Harford teammate. And Daniel, your mate from the Harald. Oh, Ralph Mouth. Yeah. We ran into Johnny Ralph, which was great.

[00:08:13] Wayne: And you know what? You two broke friends? Had a, had a, uh, had a chat with him. No, but that, that part of it. You even offered to buy him a beer. That was great. It was. I love, I love that. And you do get to speak to some people that you wouldn't normally, or some people you might've had a beef with over time.

[00:08:26] Wayne: Yes. And you, like you said, you get to break bread and you, you sort of move on and have a bit of a chat and a bit of a laugh and then you, you go your separate ways. But what it did also show me that, you know, like there are functions. Yes. And then there are functions. 

[00:08:39] Tony: Yes. Where are you going with this?

[00:08:41] Tony: You're not going to 

[00:08:41] Wayne: believe this. 

[00:08:42] Tony: Oh no, we have breaking news. Two of the, two of the greats of our 

[00:08:47] Wayne: game. Stephen Silvani. In terms of, uh, games played. Yep. How many, there's four people. 

[00:08:53] Tony: Yeah, KB. Yep. That have played in excess of 400. Yes. Dustin Fletcher. Yep. Boomer Harvey. [00:09:00] Yep. Who's the other, who's the fourth?

[00:09:02] Tony: Come on, Michael Tuck. Michael Tuck. Come on, dude. Sorry, go on. Yes. So, so these four? 

[00:09:10] Wayne: So Boomer and Fletch had a lunch. So Dustin Fletcher and Brent Hardie. They had a lunch. Whereabouts? It was, by the way, at the ARCA bar, which is very good. A very good pub, hotel. Over in Adelaide. You've got everything there.

[00:09:25] Wayne: You've got the nice rooms. You've got the sports bar. You know, if you're into, if you're into having a punt, obviously gamble responsibly. And if you do do it with Surge, um, it is nice 

[00:09:35] Tony: restaurant, 

[00:09:36] Wayne: very nice restaurant, great pub food, also restaurant food, food, all of the above being renovated. So you have functions and all that there.

[00:09:43] Wayne: So talk about functions. They had one booked in Friday lunch. Yes. I think it was through mouse promotions. Is that your mate from Perth? The little rodent. I wouldn't call him my mate. But he's a mate of some. Well, he's synonymous with sporties. He's little, he's, he's, he's a mouse. He looks like a little rodent.

[00:09:58] Wayne: Yeah. [00:10:00] Like he's, he's a very different little, uh, Yes. Cat. Well, five people turned up. 

[00:10:06] Tony: What, to see Boomer and Fetch? Actually, 

[00:10:08] Wayne: five people. No! 

[00:10:10] Tony: Yep. Two of the 

[00:10:11] Wayne: greatest legends in the AFL? Not even one for the hundred games that they, so the 800 between them. Hey, 

[00:10:17] Tony: SBT and Wayne Carey say, boy oh boy, wow. Yeah. 

[00:10:20] Wayne: So, that was a bit.

[00:10:21] Wayne: What happened? I've got no idea. I've got no idea, but that was a bit flat. So we'd walk through, uh, after the function, well, about the middle of when that function was meant to be on, and to be fair to say, there wasn't 

[00:10:35] Tony: So you were privy to this? You walked back from the High Flies function? Yes. Yes. Which had about 300 at.

[00:10:42] Tony: Did you speak to Brent or Dustin? 

[00:10:45] Wayne: Yeah. I said Good day as you did. I saw Boomer at, were you one of the five saw Boomer at the fights? Yes. Um, he was at a support, Cory, which let's, let's talk about a little bit about the fights that we, well, hang on. 

[00:10:56] Tony: W why don't we go back because there was a fantastic lunch the day [00:11:00] before at the same venue.

[00:11:01] Tony: Yeah, I was going, I was gonna 

[00:11:02] Wayne: get to that. 

[00:11:03] Tony: Oh, okay. You go. 

[00:11:04] Wayne: But we're, so you've got the fights, which we spoke about, and cane corns. For all those that thought that I was having a go at Cain Corns last week, by the way, for having a go at Luke Hodge and, and, and, uh, Joel Selva All those comments that went viral.

[00:11:16] Wayne: That went viral. I was having a go at all the nitwits out there on social media that were having a go at those guys. The social media trolls. The social media trolls, not Cain Corns. And I know that blew up a little bit, which we'll get to, but, um, My old teammate, geez my old teammates have had a good run this weekend.

[00:11:34] Wayne: Boom have sold five tickets and Corey's got knocked out. By the way, not laughing that he got knocked out. It was a powder puff. He's okay. He's had tests, all of that. He flew out the next day to watch Man United. He flew 

[00:11:50] Tony: to London within 12 hours of getting knocked out. 

[00:11:53] Wayne: So he's, oh, I 

[00:11:53] Tony: don't know. I thought he was admirable in defeat.

[00:11:55] Tony: Geez. What do you mean? Well, he came over to the [00:12:00] VIP section afterwards and spent some time with us, spoke to 

[00:12:03] Wayne: you. Yeah, that's very courageous. I wouldn't have shown my head after that effort. Well, you're a different beast than Corey. He showed more courage coming into that area afterwards than what he did in the fight.

[00:12:13] Wayne: But that's 

[00:12:13] Tony: what I mean, I admire him for actually having the tenacity to 

[00:12:16] Wayne: come in after he'd been somewhat embarrassed. I thought all of the guys, you know, albeit not too many of them should think about doing it again. No. I will say this though, well done to guys like Cain Corns and Daisy Thomas and these guys who, you know what, It was all for, you know, I don't know what charity was involved.

[00:12:37] Wayne: Was it it Charity? I don't know. I don't know whether some of the money, for whatever reasons, it takes courage to get in there and some of them did really well. Sorry. Cause it not so well. But though couple of those guys did really well. They kept coming forward and well you're, you're a bit of a, seemed to be 

[00:12:53] Tony: a boxing aficionado.

[00:12:55] Tony: What did you think of Swee versus Daisy? No, that's what I said, Daisy kept moving forward, he's not [00:13:00] equipped, he shouldn't never get in again. Yep, and well, Smoddy actually even surprised his own father, I spoke to Bill on Friday at that lunch, I'm 

[00:13:08] Wayne: sorry, Thursday 

[00:13:09] Tony: at that lunch, and he turned around and said, I don't know where Dane gets his ability from.

[00:13:13] Tony: Well, it was against Daisy 

[00:13:16] Wayne: Thomas. 

[00:13:16] Tony: Nothing against Daisy. Move on. 

[00:13:19] Wayne: It was good. By the way, the actual boxers that boxed on that particular night were very good. Are 

[00:13:22] Tony: you talking about 

[00:13:23] Wayne: No, what about Cain Pettiford and Mitch Robinson? Yeah, Mitch Well, Mitch wants to take it up. He I thought he was exceptional.

[00:13:30] Wayne: Yeah, 

[00:13:30] Tony: he was. Along 

[00:13:30] Wayne: with Cain. That was the best fight out of the ex Hasbeen footballers. Yep. 

[00:13:35] Tony: And now I know I was standing next to you after the Cain corns Nathan Brown blew. Um, Cain came up to you. What did he say? He said, G'day. And? 

[00:13:44] Wayne: That's it. He said, G'day, Duck. And I said, Hey, by the way, you should, you should walk around with your head held high.

[00:13:49] Wayne: Yeah. He did very well. Well, I, he had a go. Yep. Great. That's all we wanted Corey to do. Corey, Corey, he'll accept that we did this. Then obviously [00:14:00] we, uh, we had the lunch on the Friday, uh, sorry, the Thursday, the GBS lunch. Yeah. Good blood society. Yeah. Which went really well. Tony Modra. That was the, uh, guest speaker at that particular function.

[00:14:11] Wayne: People don't What age was yourself? People don't realise how big Tony Modra was. So for all of the young people that listen to this, go back and watch some highlights of Modra. You know, you're talking about Gary Ablett's senior likeability. He was an unbelievable, he was, he was Jason Dunstall like on the lead.

[00:14:28] Wayne: With their hands. But could jump. But could jump like Gary Ablett Sr. Correct. He had both of those unbelievable attributes and had a period in Adelaide. Well, his nickname was Godra. Um, he He looked 

[00:14:41] Tony: like the Beatles, wasn't 

[00:14:42] Wayne: he? Oh, he was huge. Biggest, biggest thing in Adelaide since Sir Donald Bradman. Yep.

[00:14:46] Wayne: And maybe, and well, because of uh, media and everything else at the time, probably uh, bigger. Could not go anywhere or do anything. And he, he spoke incredibly well at that function. He did speak well. And I thought, uh, that whole day went over really well. But all [00:15:00] in all, our experience over there was 

[00:15:02] Tony: Well, let's not skip over the crucial parts that we've got to bring up.

[00:15:06] Tony: Now, there were four jumpers sold at the Good Bloke Society function. How's this crucial part? Robert DiPietro Medico, Dane Swan, Tony Modra and Wayne Carey. Now, what do you reckon the jumpers were sold for? 

[00:15:18] Wayne: I've got no 

[00:15:18] Tony: idea because it's all to do with the GPS. Yes, and it all goes to charity. I don't know.

[00:15:23] Tony: So, Dippers sold for 1, 100. Dane Swans sold for 1500. Tony Madras sold for 950, and the great Wayne Carey sold for $2,000. That it is, that it? What? Well, by comparison, what did you expect? They got a very 

[00:15:43] Wayne: good deal there. If that's all they 

[00:15:44] Tony: got that for . 

[00:15:46] Wayne: Seriously? 

[00:15:46] Tony: Well, what, what's, I was very surprised that modules only went for nine 50.

[00:15:50] Tony: Mate. It depends on the, depends on the crowd. 

[00:15:52] Wayne: You 

[00:15:53] Tony: wish. Well, they should have waited the next day where you went to the High Flyer Society. 

[00:15:56] Wayne: So you do agree though? It was. They've done a great 

[00:15:59] Tony: job, Adelaide, yes? [00:16:00] Sensational. A massive tick of approval and I concur with what you said, they should actually hold it and get a deal done with Andrew Dillon and the AFL and the State Government of South Australia for at least the next 10 years.

[00:16:11] Tony: What about the 

[00:16:11] Wayne: other thing that's, that happens every year as well, and that's the media start to turn on themselves? Yeah, well, what 

[00:16:19] Tony: about, should we, yes, we'll go with this and then I'll come back to the crucial point that we've got to bring up. So, 

[00:16:23] Wayne: you've, you've D'Arcy's had a crack at Kornzee. Kornzee, I tell you what, like I said in that fight the other night, he kept coming forward.

[00:16:34] Wayne: You've got to have a good defence if you play like Kornzee, and you know what, and he does. Very well researched. Handled himself really, really well. So Luke D'Arcy having a go at him about having a go at, and that's to me, and I love D'Arcy as well, to me that's more of a Channel 7 man. Luke Darcy sticking up, sticking up for his colleagues.

[00:16:58] Tony: But he did say it on Triple M. [00:17:00] Would 

[00:17:00] Wayne: you concur with that? 

[00:17:01] Tony: Excuse me. Um, I, look, I think Darcy may have been jumping on the bandwagon that you created and Richo started and said that Well I didn't create any bandwagon, that was once again being misrepresented and misreported. footy show, specifically Cain Corns having a crack at and footy.

[00:17:22] Tony: Yeah, I know. And then Richo Went on Twitter slash X and said the bar has been dropped too low you shouldn't have gone down that road and then you came out last week and Said something similar that they shouldn't be trolled. I didn't 

[00:17:35] Wayne: yeah trolled. Yeah trolled the dingbats that are throwing No, but I'm not talk.

[00:17:39] Wayne: I'm talking about just in general. 

[00:17:40] Tony: Yeah, 

[00:17:41] Wayne: Luke Hodge cops it on social media They all cop it BT's been copying it forever But I just think guys that are just starting out in their media careers You should be given a little bit of leeway to learn the caper. Guys that have been in for a long time, open slather, you know, if you don't like what they do, have a crack.

[00:17:57] Wayne: But guys finding their way, that's [00:18:00] what I was having a crack at. Not, not what Cain Corn said. Yeah, 

[00:18:03] Tony: well, and I thought Cain Corn's retort to Luke Darcy was sensational. 

[00:18:08] Wayne: Yeah, well, that's what he left him speechless. So this is what I'm saying. So we're starting to turn on one another then, you know, Caroline Wilson 

[00:18:16] Tony: Carol was on the ABC's off siders yesterday morning with Laura Kane and Koshi.

[00:18:20] Tony: Her and Koshi. Koshi's had a crack Koshi has had a crack. 

[00:18:24] Wayne: But Koshi's not He's not involved in the media anymore, is he? 

[00:18:28] Tony: Well, he's still a media personality and yes, he is the Port Adelaide chairman, but I thought he's um, Two fingered gesture towards Caroline Wilson. I just I didn't see without a line Well, we've got a couple of screenshots So we might go to the Wayne Carey the truth hurts instagram and show that for everybody gonna put that up Oh, well, we're not turning into a gossip.

[00:18:47] Tony: No, but but if it's you know, what's your old thing called? What is it show you nick? Yeah. Well, the other thing is Wayne You That, if it was put in the Herald Sun, that we would be talking about, or the Age, or the Sydney Morning Herald, or the Daily Telegraph, or [00:19:00] whatever. It is an issue that has to be brought up.

[00:19:03] Tony: Now, Richard Collis, the former chairman of the Sydney Swans, did that to Eddie Maguire. And, it has now been part of his, um, I don't, it's part of folklore. And, he was challenged about it. So, why should Koshy turn around to a respected media figure and throw his fingers up? Well, 

[00:19:23] Wayne: I think you get a fine for that if you're a player.

[00:19:25] Wayne: And you did that because kids are watching. So, I guess, is that watch this space, is it? Well, I think it is 

[00:19:31] Tony: watch this space. Well, what do you think about it? I mean, I'm not sure that you would do it on a footy classified or Well, the 

[00:19:36] Wayne: player's not allowed to do it on the football field to someone as he's walking off.

[00:19:40] Wayne: I think, remember Richo did it many years ago. He did, yeah, he was quite cheeky. Yeah, so Nathan Brown did it. I would assume live TV, you probably wouldn't. 

[00:19:49] Tony: Well, Kelly Underwood, she's the host, or was the host of Offsiders yesterday, and she actually went to grab Kosciuszko to say, Hey, hey, hey, you know, as in, you can't do that, and I don't think he should [00:20:00] have, so it'll be interesting to see, because Laura Kane was the fourth person on the guest on the program.

[00:20:04] Tony: Maybe it isn't. What's this space? I think Koshi was fired. Oh, he's sticking up 

[00:20:08] Wayne: for the Finlayson. 

[00:20:09] Tony: Pardon the 

[00:20:09] Wayne: pun. Sticking. I didn't mean that. Um, for the 

[00:20:15] Tony: Finlayson situation. Yeah, Jeremy Finlayson, forward. Now he has said something derogatory of a homophobic nature to an Estonian player. Now, are you aware of what he was alleged to have said?

[00:20:28] Wayne: No idea. Well, I assume homophobic, I do have some idea, but I don't actually know what it was The 

[00:20:34] Tony: specifics, well apparently it was captured on a microphone, which is interesting in itself. 

[00:20:40] Wayne: Okay. So what, so what, what are you expecting? What sort of find? Yeah, let's go back then. Let's, Tex Walker, who doesn't, Tex Walker a couple of years ago says something on the football ground.

[00:20:53] Wayne: At a, 

[00:20:54] Tony: at a reserves game, was it not? Uh, Yes, it wasn't the same. I was a reserved guy and 

[00:20:59] Wayne: he was he 

[00:20:59] Tony: [00:21:00] was actually a fan 

[00:21:01] Wayne: watching and it wasn't directed like at the person I don't think the person actually heard what was said, but was reported He said someone heard what he read and then reported him for saying it.

[00:21:10] Wayne: He got six weeks. I think it was a trainer 

[00:21:13] Tony: Yes, six weeks. Yep, which I think was probably Over the top 

[00:21:17] Wayne: and earlier this year yet. Clark. Oh, okay 

[00:21:21] Tony: Yes. 20 grand fine. Coach of North Melbourne, when Jai Simpkin was concussed by, uh, Jimmy Webster, and then he and Dougal Howard, um, were, not remonstrating, they were, they were, within his shot of Clarke Owen, Clarke Owen yelled out something offensive.

[00:21:39] Tony: I'll tell you what 

[00:21:40] Wayne: we're going to do, just like we've already seen. There's going to be inconsistencies around this and, you know, who knows? Who knows where it lands? Like I said to the other week, toss a coin. So what do you think Finlayson should get? He's come out and apologised. I don't know exactly what he said, and I don't know how it was put.

[00:21:56] Wayne: I think context is massive in anything that is [00:22:00] said. Yep. And I think Koshi's argument was heat of the moment. You're in, you know, you're on the footy field. Not that that matters. Not condoning that at all. In saying that he, he seemed to have an opinion that it's different when you are in the heat of the battle and when you're not.

[00:22:16] Wayne: That was his argument from what I heard. Yeah. But once again, context is an amazing thing. Uh, let's see where this lands. But like I said, toss a coin because that's generally what, with the AFL, you don't know where anything's going to land at any given time. Well, which leads to the goal review system.

[00:22:31] Wayne: Yeah. Putrid. Oh. Umpiring at the moment. Putrid. Commentators can't say this. Absolutely pathetic, I think. Boundary, field, we did discuss this a few weeks ago. The boundary umpires seriously need goggles. And the field umpires holding the ball decision, I just, you know, some get, some get pinged. Um, you know, with plenty of prior and then others have no prior and get pinged straight away.

[00:22:58] Wayne: The inconsistency [00:23:00] is just right off at the moment. And then the goal review system again on the weekend. I will say this. There are reasons for I think that clearly being in Adelaide gather round you have ovals that They don't have the technology or set up for the system like you would on the main ovals that they play on every weekend.

[00:23:19] Wayne: But given that we play a professional sport with hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars being pumped into this game, and we can't get that right, where games are, games are won and lost off the back of this. Livelihoods, uh, are lost and made off the back of this. People get sacked off losses and, and, you know, rehired on wins.

[00:23:46] Wayne: And yet we can't get that right. And there's hun you know, that, that's another frustration that we talk about, about our game. And we talk about how compromised it is. Just another compromise. 

[00:23:57] Tony: It is ridiculous. And it's a plot on the game. Um, what [00:24:00] we saw yesterday, GWS playing when Steven Coniglio kicked that goal.

[00:24:04] Tony: And they waited some, it would have been four to five minutes to review the goal. They've taken away that gut instinct of whether it's right or wrong. Now we don't want teams to lose games and, you know, miss grand finals because of something that should have been reviewed. But the system is shot. It's actually shit.

[00:24:24] Tony: It is, and Gerard Healy, the Fox Sports commentator said yesterday during the GWS game, and I quote, he said, Reviewers have to be reviewed. Laura Kane has to get her head around it because it's just a mess. Now there's strong comments from a bloke who won a Brownlow medal, and has seen more games than, you know, anybody.

[00:24:43] Tony: I like Gerard, and he calls a spade a 

[00:24:45] Wayne: shovel. He does, but it is a mess. He should be working more for Fox as well. 

[00:24:50] Tony: And Adam Kingsley was um, throwing his hands in the air and shaking his head saying what are we doing? It's affecting, as you said, livelihoods. These players are almost [00:25:00] warming down waiting for a decision.

[00:25:02] Tony: It is over the top and it is a bad plot on the game. 

[00:25:05] Wayne: Talk about livelihoods and talk about where certain teams are at. And I'm only watching highlights over the last four weeks. I've seen snippets here, snippets there, but then at the end of the day, you see, um, you see the result and obviously spoken to a number of people about the North Melbourne and West Coast.

[00:25:24] Wayne: Wow. How, how long, I mean, North Melbourne and West Coast at the moment, I would argue have gone backwards from last year. I think North Melbourne, during that period where Clarko had a break, and Brett Ratton was coach, and they arguably should have won two games. I think there was a mistake of the bench against Sydney?

[00:25:48] Wayne: Were they 19 players on the field? Yeah, where they lost and they got the free kick, could have easily, um, I think it was Larkey, wasn't it? Yeah, pinched that game, don't know who it was, and then there was another game where they Yeah. Could have easily won [00:26:00] in that time. That form there is where you thought, wow, you know, all of a sudden you see some light at the end of the tunnel.

[00:26:08] Wayne: And yes, I know Sheazle and Wardlaw, and we know Larkey was an All Australian last year. And we, you know, we know they've got some, um, good young talent at the footy club, but are they even going to be at the peaks of their powers when this club actually get the, I'm, I'm just not sure. They've made so many errors.

[00:26:29] Wayne: You mean on field? With their recruiting. Yeah. So who's to blame for that? Yes, they've got it right. In my opinion, the last two drafts, which is why we're looking at those players and saying yes, but the ones before that, the mistakes that they've made, haven't been with the young kids necessarily. It has been all of the players that they've got from other clubs who have fundamentally not worked for them.

[00:26:52] Wayne: Would you be willing? Now some have, now some have got excuses. Some have been injured, but some have just been plain wrong. Some [00:27:00] have not been anywhere near up to the standard and getting paid the sort of money that they're getting paid is ludicrous. And West Coast, well, they're no, they're no better. I mean, they're hard to watch.

[00:27:11] Wayne: How do you go from winning a flag? And then the space of five years they were there at right now. It's, it's a worry for the competition because we thought that those clubs this year, certainly North Melbourne would be, would be pushing a little bit harder. Um, and maybe getting that four, five, six wins.

[00:27:31] Wayne: Well, that doesn't look like the case. Um, especially after the weekend. 

[00:27:36] Tony: Yeah, exactly. And I concur with everything you've just said. The other part being is that they've recruited Alistair Clarkson. Who is a four time premiership coach and arguably one of the greatest of all time. Has he been able to achieve what he thought and forecast in this short amount of time?

[00:27:52] Wayne: Well, no, not yet. Clearly not even close, but it's, it also highlights the fact that just goes to show you that [00:28:00] coaches don't make players, players make coaches. And if you don't have the cattle. Although the flip side could be, what about Damien Hardwick at the Gold Coast? What are they sitting for the year?

[00:28:11] Wayne: Uh, what are they, two and two? Okay, so they're pretty much where I thought they were. Well, I could 

[00:28:16] Tony: stand to be corrected, but I thought they were reasonable yesterday. Well, I didn't see any of the game. Well, they were neck and neck with the Giants until three quarter time, and then the Giants kicked away and, you know, your mate Toby Green kicked five goals in a fantastic performance, but the Suns have, I think they made seven changes, and did you see Mac Andrew?

[00:28:36] Tony: Mac Andrew? I think he's, um, Sudanese. He's fantastic down back. 

[00:28:39] Wayne: Yep. 

[00:28:40] Tony: He could actually be the face of the footy club in the next two to three years. I mean, I know they've got Tukmila and, uh, Noah Anderson Rao, but this kid has got spunk. He threw Toby Green on the ground. You know, there may be some conjecture over that, whether he was actually, whether Green actually forcefully threw him [00:29:00] to the ground and had a head knock, because he got up and then threw Green as a reaction.

[00:29:05] Tony: But this kid I reckon has got pizzazz style, he's got a good kick on him. So 

[00:29:09] Wayne: given what, let's talk about, let's talk about that, because you're living up on the Gold Coast, the weather's salubrious, you know, just magnificent every day, day in, day out. Hardwick, three time premiership coach, goes up there, says that he's got the list.

[00:29:24] Wayne: Yep. And all of a sudden now they're, they're where we probably thought they're at. If they don't play finals this, this year, then is that a fail for Hardwick? I would have thought so. I think, I think it is. Yeah, but they haven't Given what he said at the start of the year, given what he said at the start of the year, given that he left Richmond to go there and take on that list over Richmond.

[00:29:46] Wayne: Halfway through the year. Correct. That's, that's a fail, isn't it? Yeah, I would have thought so. So a lot to be proven yet. Do you like their list? For Gold Coast. Um, Yeah, it's 

[00:29:56] Tony: okay. Now, there's two things that we've overlooked here. [00:30:00] One, how are you watching football if you're on a four week break? 

[00:30:03] Wayne: Well, you know how I'm, well, I'm not watching it for starters, but it's a lot of the places I was at on the weekend.

[00:30:10] Wayne: It's on in the background. I'm certainly not sitting there looking at it, but you know, even yesterdays at family, um, and it was on in the background, but I didn't sit there, you know, uh, and watch the TV. You glance at it, um, and to be honest, there hasn't been too many great games. Like I glanced, uh, yesterday.

[00:30:32] Wayne: Hawthorne Collingwood was good towards the end of the game. Well, I glanced over and saw the half time score of the St. Kilda, uh, games. St. Kilda Richmond. And, uh, saw that, uh, St. Kilda kicked one goal. Yeah. And then looked at the result today and, you know, obviously St. Kilda dominated the second half. But, um, There's not a lot, there's, there's not a lot of great football being played at the moment.

[00:30:55] Wayne: I don't think. What 

[00:30:55] Tony: about Freo Carlton? 

[00:30:58] Wayne: Dissemination? What I [00:31:00] heard from that game is that, that was, uh. Well it's hard to identify the players. Well the result, the result came, I did hear that complaint as well. The fact that, you know, Fremantle looked like Carlton. Carlton was 

[00:31:11] Tony: wearing Freo. 

[00:31:12] Wayne: And, you know, and that it was decided on an umpiring error.

[00:31:16] Wayne: And then also a dissent decision, which, which they've thrown out the door as they normally do. And then at a costly moment, they bring it back out. And that is what we're talking about here with the umpires. And that's why people get so frustrated. And if I was Fremantle, given that that's a dissent call, and then the AFL coming out going, Oh yes, we totally agree as they normally do when, you know, they're sticking up for the umpire.

[00:31:40] Wayne: You could show a million dissent. Yep. Yep. Yep. Players showing dissent during the year, yeah? Already this year, and it hasn't been paid. And at a crucial stage, they decide to pay it. You know what that is? That is an umpire not having a feel for the game. Yes. 

[00:31:58] Tony: Now, also, [00:32:00] after, I think it was round one, you said that, um, after the Carlton Richmond game, that the umpires were barracking for Carlton.

[00:32:06] Tony: Barraking. Not barraking. Um, what 

[00:32:09] Wayne: was the term you used? You have been a media person before, haven't you? You just make up the narrative as you want. I was thinking of the descriptive terms you used. I said it seems like Carlton are going for Yes? Yes. So the umpires are going for Carlton as well. Sorry, that's right, yes.

[00:32:28] Wayne: There were a few free kicks. What I was reminded of, there were a lot of free kicks that went Lynch's way early in that game as well. So Look, at, right at this point in time, it seems that Carlton are getting a good run with the umpires at crucial times. They certainly are. And, yeah, make your own, uh, make your own mind up about whether that.

[00:32:50] Wayne: Is something that needs addressing or not? 

[00:32:55] Tony: Well, there were some interesting decisions over the weekend. What about, um, Isaac Heaney, the, [00:33:00] uh, the Swans champ, went for a marking contest and was whacked in the jaw by a West Coast player, and that's allowed to play on. So, the discrepancies from the match review panel are, I think, a lot of the times, dependent on whether the media picks them up.

[00:33:17] Wayne: Totally concur, Tony. It's not good enough. Everyone's saying, you know, Isaac Eni may be the best, one of the best players, or the best player in the competition at the moment. Do you agree with that? No, I don't. I think he'd be in the top three, Duck. Very good player. I'll tell you what he's got to do, he's got to string a whole year together.

[00:33:33] Tony: Yeah. 

[00:33:33] Wayne: He's done this before, where he's had patches. And he's in a very good path. He's had a great start to the year. Yeah, he's kicking goals. He's got to follow that. If he follows that through, then, then we're saying, you know, Yep. That's, and, and that's all he's looked for, I think, in his whole career. We'd know the talent that he's got, but it's That's, I guess, uh, producing that best, more consistently than what he has over a whole year.

[00:33:57] Tony: Yeah, I totally agree. It's a marathon. Not a sprint. [00:34:00] Yes. Now, we spoke off camera. The person that I think we both agree on, who has had a fantastic start to the year, and at least, against you along the other night, proved how valuable he is, is Marcus Bontempelli. 

[00:34:12] Wayne: Oh, well, 

[00:34:12] Tony: you've known. He's, he's, Sandra Sully with the late news.

[00:34:16] Tony: But I'm saying that I still think he is more valuable to his team than Isaac Heaney is to his. Like what he did against Geelong the other night, and I know they didn't come away with the win, but I thought he was sensational. 

[00:34:29] Wayne: Well, he's, he's been sensational for probably about seven years, six, seven years.

[00:34:32] Tony: Yeah, I know, but he's still been able to prove it. I think he's, what is he, about 30 or 31? 

[00:34:37] Wayne: He's about 

[00:34:37] Tony: 21, isn't he? 

[00:34:40] Wayne: He's still very young for a guy that's 21. 

[00:34:42] Tony: And I know you spoke earlier about Liber and the grunt work that he did. He was magnificent in and under. But also the toughness with which Bontempele played.

[00:34:51] Tony: And then, I think in the last quarter, going left of screen at the Adelaide Oval, on Saturday night against Geelong. To kick that goal from 55 on the run was [00:35:00] just unbelievable. 

[00:35:01] Wayne: I know this isn't making, uh, good, good conversation, but I didn't see any of that, Tony, and it wasn't controversial enough for me to have a look at.

[00:35:10] Wayne: Yeah, okay, well, now that you're It's just about him, uh, kicking your goal, which is great. 

[00:35:13] Tony: Yeah, but in context, Wayne, it was sensational. Now, the other thing is with, you were, obviously, aren't doing at the moment. Apparently you weren't drinking until you got to Adelaide. 

[00:35:25] Wayne: Someone did sneak me, uh, one, and I had, so I had, once I'd had that sip, I had a couple.

[00:35:31] Wayne: Really? 

[00:35:32] Tony: Yeah. So the abstinence is broken? 

[00:35:33] Wayne: No, well, I'm back on it. You're back on the piss? No, back off it. Oh, so your abstinence is So someone, uh, well, I didn't realise there was something in it. Alcoholic? Yes, and then, so once I'd had half of that, I thought, okay, so I'd had a few. So I broke it, but I'm now back on it.

[00:35:53] Tony: So, was this a sort of a one time thing for three days? Yeah. Yep. Correct. [00:36:00] For three 

[00:36:00] Wayne: days. 

[00:36:01] Tony: You arrived in Adelaide Wednesday morning, and you left Friday night. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Well, who said I 

[00:36:07] Wayne: drank Wednesday, Thursday, Friday? Snowy. 

[00:36:12] Tony: Snowy off the tree. I'll tell 

[00:36:14] Wayne: you what, Snowy knows a lot. 

[00:36:16] Tony: Well, did you enjoy it?

[00:36:17] Tony: How did you feel? I mean, you went six weeks 

[00:36:18] Wayne: without a beer. Beer time. I felt disappointed. Really? Yeah. Because? Because I'd, I'd gone that far, so five and, whatever it was, five and a half weeks, and then, uh, and then it was broken. So, so I'm back. Yeah. Off it. Training. And yeah, well, that, that hasn't stopped, but I'm back off it and now I'll, I'll keep staying off it.

[00:36:42] Wayne: We're all, 

[00:36:42] Tony: Herts. Which is 

[00:36:44] Wayne: why I didn't have a set time on the end of it. Yep. Right. And I think that's where people. Can sometimes go wrong. And it might be, you might be on a diet, you know, learn to say no at the dinner table, Tony, every now and then, [00:37:00] but if you're on a diet and then people get disappointed in themselves because they, you know, they 

[00:37:04] Tony: eat something and all they say 

[00:37:05] Wayne: is Snickers.

[00:37:05] Wayne: And they, I dive into that or they eat something they shouldn't and you're allowed to have a couple of cheat days. Well, you are. And then that's not so for me, it was, I had, it was a little bit disappointed, not there was. necessarily my fault. I'm not throwing anyone under the bus, but someone gave me a soda water that had something more than soda water in it.

[00:37:25] Wayne: And that's why once I got halfway through that, I thought, Oh, well, okay. So I had a couple and it was broken. So now I'm back on. No, like I said, I felt, I actually felt a little bit disappointed that it was broken. So you drank Thursday night and Friday lunch. I thought, Oh boy, if you're going to do it, It's a bit like, if you're going to break your diet, don't go and have a drumstick from Kentucky, have, uh, a bucket, or if you have this, you're going to have, you don't just break off a little bit of chocolate, have the whole block.

[00:37:57] Tony: Yeah, or if you're going to have one [00:38:00] vodka and soda, have 20 beers afterwards. Well, 

[00:38:02] Wayne: that's what I'm saying, or by the way, drink responsibly, but yes. That's my theory anyway. 

[00:38:07] Tony: Now what about, we have spoken about a lot of good topics today, but also one I wanted to bring up with you. Now I'm hearing some shocking information out of Tigeland.

[00:38:17] Tony: My understanding is that Dustin Martin is threatening to walk away. wants to finish on a high. He's played 292 games. He played a good game yesterday at Norwood against uh, St Kilda. He was the number one possession getter on the ground till halftime with 20 possessions. Weren't great possessions. He's not the Dusty that we used to know.

[00:38:40] Tony: The best player in the competition, Brown Lowe's, Norm Smith's, all that sort of stuff. But my understanding is that, Richmond is in a tug of war about keeping Dusty in a Richmond jumper until he can make 300 games. As I said, he's played 292 as of yesterday. He's told friends and family that he [00:39:00] can't do it anymore.

[00:39:01] Tony: He wants to walk away, he's fed up, can't deal with it. But Richmond, as I said, is grappling with the fact that he could walk away and they're saying, you will regret this for the rest of your life. If you don't play 300 games, just get to 300 and then we'll work out then what you want to do for the length of your contract and all the rest of this year.

[00:39:22] Tony: Not sure the 300 would. He would 

[00:39:24] Wayne: give a rat's ring around. Well, 

[00:39:26] Tony: he doesn't, but everybody else does. 

[00:39:28] Wayne: Yeah, look, so he's human, does he? Yeah, he is human. He has been an unbelievably good player. If he was to decide, by the way, this is news to me. I haven't heard any of that. But if he was to finish up at the end of the year, or Go away and, and, or go to another club or whatever it may be.

[00:39:45] Wayne: Then he has, he has the right to do that. I think he's done enough in this game for us to, the thing that people don't understand about Dustin Martin and very few players like him in the competition and probably Lance Franklin, um, [00:40:00] would be the only one in modern times that can go, just, well, can't go anywhere in Australia without being recognised.

[00:40:07] Wayne: Yeah. And Dusty, I think, sits in that category. Even in Sydney. I mean, a Marcus Pontempelli could go to Queensland and not be recognised. Yeah. I don't think Dusty Martin could. Or Buddy, you're right. So, there is a big difference, and this guy is a bit like Buddy, they're quite shy. Buddy probably didn't start out shy, but in the end, because of the, I guess the star power that came along with being the best player in the comp for a long period of time.

[00:40:35] Wayne: Very, it's very hard for people to understand what it's like to live like that. Well, you wouldn't understand. And I assume that's the, um, He, I, I think he would find it hard to trust people. And, you know, you've got all these, when, when you are in that position, you got all these people hanging off you and want, want you this and that.

[00:40:53] Wayne: And, you know, he would, uh, and obviously with the passing of his, his dad and, you know, I'm, I'm sure he is [00:41:00] still, um, you know, finding it difficult when you lose your best friend and not only your father, but your best. I, the fact that he's even out there and producing, as you said, what he did on the weekend is quite remarkable.

[00:41:13] Wayne: And, um, it wouldn't, it wouldn't surprise me if this was his last year or, or, you know, gets to 300, as you said. I'm not sure though. I'm not sure. I, I, you don't, you're not in the sort of condition that Dusty's in. and still playing the type of footy that he's playing. And yes, it's, he's, he's not grabbing games, uh, by the scruff of the neck like he used to and winning games.

[00:41:38] Wayne: Uh, but he's still, he's still an unbelievably good player. And as a lot of people said, was unlucky. He made the squad, although I don't write the squad or the Australian squad that is, but if he, uh, you know, some people saying unlucky not to have made the all Australian team last year. So we're not talking about someone that is.

[00:41:57] Wayne: You know, completely lost his football ability. Oh [00:42:00] no. He's not going to be the player he was a few years ago. Will he, will he get there at times? Yes, he will. Will it be as consistent as what it was when he won the Brownlow and the Norm Smiths? No. Well, by the way, you've got to get into the finals to make, to win Norm Smiths.

[00:42:13] Wayne: I'm not sure Richmond are going to do that. So, um, And the more we talk about him, you know, the more probably that he, he goes back into that, um, that place where, you know, he just, he just wants to be left alone. Yeah. He's, like I said, there's very few players in the league that, uh, uh, You know, I like 

[00:42:37] Tony: that.

[00:42:37] Tony: I still think, based on your um, sound advice and counsel, I still think he should get to 300, which then He's already in the 300 club. I know that, but to have that against your name, it looks far better having 300 than 297. 

[00:42:51] Wayne: No, I don't think people 

[00:42:52] Tony: give a crap 

[00:42:52] Wayne: about whether you have 300 next year. Yeah, I don't.

[00:42:55] Wayne: No, certain, they were, I tell you what, there are certain players out there that [00:43:00] that means a lot too, that will crawl to it if they have to. Yep. All right. And sometimes get, get given games to get there. Dusty's not one of those. He doesn't need 300 to, to hang his hat on in what he's done to the game. Yeah.

[00:43:16] Wayne: In the game. 

[00:43:17] Tony: Now I agree, but I still, I think from a, um, fan point of view, I think it would be great to have, you know, Dustin Martin, 300 games. And then, which then could trigger the question, if you have a, um, mid season draft or trade period, he could then turn around and say, well, you know what, I actually want to go and play for the Swans or GWS or the, Gold Coast Suns, or the Lions, let me add them a contract.

[00:43:41] Tony: So, he's obviously done enough at the Tigers, he's brought them fame and fortune and a huge fan base and he's been the biggest name in the game, he and Buddy, for the last 15, 20 years. So, do you then, is it worthwhile bringing in a mid season trade period to then allow [00:44:00] players like Dusty to turn and say, well, I want to go and live in the sunshine, I'm sick of being in Victoria.

[00:44:04] Tony: I'm 

[00:44:04] Wayne: not sure the mid season trade period works for our game. And there's only one reason why, they're not paid, Dusty's the example, that he could, but how many players, if all of a sudden you're a trader and you've got a young family and you've got to move them over there and you're only on, you know, a certain amount of money, or whatever it is, you're only on it for a short period of time, you can't do that.

[00:44:32] Wayne: We don't have this sort of money. We're not America. 

[00:44:34] Tony: Yeah. 

[00:44:35] Wayne: The NBA or the NFL? No. No. Okay. So everyone keeps talking, do this, do that. We can't copy that, that system, purely because the finances in the game and what players get paid and the cost of living, yeah, it just doesn't marry up. 

[00:44:50] Tony: Yeah. What would it, like you spent enough time in Sydney, somebody from the Swans said to me, speaking of cost of living, the Swans players have how many out of the [00:45:00] 40, do you reckon, own their own home?

[00:45:02] Tony: No idea. Seven players. Seven players. Well, they talk about cost of living. The cost of living is bad enough everywhere in Australia. Now let alone Sydney, which is probably at least another 33 percent on top of that. That's a, that's a stark stat to me. Why don't 

[00:45:17] Wayne: you chat to Eddie about the cost of living allowance?

[00:45:20] Tony: Well, I just think he wanted equilibrium and then Andrew Islanders, um, didn't Melbourne's 

[00:45:25] Wayne: too much different, is it? Of course it is. Cost of 

[00:45:28] Tony: living? Really? It's faster. Cost of living? Yes. Well, you know that. You spend enough time in Sydney. I agree. A lunch you could go to in Melbourne, in South Yarra, might cost you 300.

[00:45:37] Tony: A lunch for you in Sydney might cost you double that. Where are you eating, Tony? 

[00:45:42] Wayne: Well, I'm usually with you. Oh, no, very good. Well, big footy chat today, not a lot, uh, not a lot. What, we spoke about the weather? Yeah, well, given that we were over in Adelaide for Gather Round, Yeah. and I think it deserved, you know, Once again, give that a big tick.

[00:45:59] Wayne: [00:46:00] Uh, huge tick 

[00:46:01] Tony: Adelaide forever. Yep. Peter Malinowskis and Andrew Dillon. Congratulations. That was massive duck. Yep. All right. Hey, by the way, last week we spoke about BT being one of the best commentators in the country, which we both agree with. 

[00:46:13] Wayne: Yep, 

[00:46:14] Tony: had a lot of feedback about that too. Yeah, good, well it went viral, you know, News.

[00:46:18] Tony: com and the Herald Sun and all these other big websites. Now, next week, why don't you and I put together our list of commentators? Okay, well you do yours and I'll do 

[00:46:26] Wayne: mine and we'll, we'll compare the two. 

[00:46:29] Tony: Yes, with a lot of research. You've 

[00:46:30] Wayne: upset enough people in this industry, I want to see you upset a few more.

[00:46:34] Wayne: Well, I could be the second coming of Cain Cormans. Well, well, get off, get off your seat and with the picket. You know because you know what I want you to come out of your shell a bit 

[00:46:46] Tony: Yeah, I have criticized those that deserve it and I have pumped up those that deserve it I've never been a Shy wallflower have I?

[00:46:55] Tony: No, I wouldn't call you shy. Well, there you go. Well, you want me to be a little bit more 

[00:46:59] Wayne: [00:47:00] forceful Anyway, I'm just looking out the window there and it's the sun's out. So you you Teedle off with your, with your umbrella, Penguin. And, uh, we'll see you next week. 

[00:47:11] Tony: I'll see you next week in your Nike t shirt.