Season 2 - EP #5 - baggage check, a Tassie team, helicopters in Brighton and footy show wars

Season 2 - EP #5 - baggage check, a Tassie team, helicopters in Brighton and footy show wars

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S2E5

[00:00:00] I'm Wayne Carey, and this is The Truth Hurts. Well, here we are, Tony, for another episode of The Truth Hurts. I think it's episode five, believe it or not. We've done those little, uh, the boxing one last week. Can you believe it? I can. You can? Can you? Well, by the way, jeez, you start out like a stiff. Has anyone ever told you you don't have to come in here like a B1 or a B2?

[00:00:27] Bananas in pajamas. 

[00:00:29] tony: Your humour is obviously standing again this week. You've got the boys from Cotton On giving you the free t shirts. And the other 

[00:00:35] thing is, this is Caliper. The other thing is that's, uh, what's the word, Strode. Is it strode on camera? No, it's strobe. Strobe with a B. That's strobes on camera.

[00:00:45] I tell surely you would know that 

[00:00:46] tony: if this was a vertical podcast and we could see your purple shorts. You look like a banana. 

[00:00:51] So you haven't 

[00:00:51] tony: turned your 

[00:00:51] phone off. What are you doing? It's made, I'm very busy. You're a banana in a pajama. And the other thing I want to bring up about this cost 

[00:00:57] tony: me $300 this year about your 

[00:00:59] [00:01:00] appearance.

[00:01:00] tony: Yeah. 

[00:01:01] Have you had your eyelashes 

[00:01:03] tony: tinted? Well, the good thing is this is a podcast. This is audible. So we don't know you It's not it's it's filmed mate. 

[00:01:09] You've had your eyelashes tinted. Have a look at my eyebrows done You have yet. So you've had them tinted by the way I'm all for Improving yourself. I know you're you're with me.

[00:01:22] You're going on a you know, how many days are you now? How many days are you without a beer or a drink? I haven't had an alcoholic drink for You Good to see our good friends, uh, picked up on the fact that, uh, the thing that I've noticed most about this one, you feel good. I've dropped a little bit of weight back in the gym.

[00:01:40] How much weight have you lost? Only a kilo or two. That's all I needed to lose. You probably lose a few more. Um, but just the things that you remember, the things that I'm getting done, that you put off and you just get done. It's, you know what, uh, I advise anyone that, uh, You [00:02:00] know, doesn't mind a beer. By the way, there's, there's gonna come a time where I, you know, have a, have a beer again at some stage.

[00:02:05] Maybe the other 

[00:02:05] tony: round? 

[00:02:06] Uh, I don't know. Might get through, gather 

[00:02:09] tony: round. I'll tell you what I did see on the weekend in um, the News Corp publications. David Campbell, Jimmy Barnes's son, he's actually 10 years sober, I think this week. Is he? I thought of you straight away. I don't know whether you would do 10 years.

[00:02:21] tony: Nah, he's gone 

[00:02:22] a little bit too long. No, but good on him. Anyone that, anyone that does it and talking about that. Yes. I went, I was in Queensland on Saturday night. I went up there, something that was organized a long time, a long time ago. And it was the Coolaroo Roos I went up there for. Hey, 

[00:02:38] tony: can I just interject?

[00:02:40] tony: Sorry, because I know the story is fantastic. How did you get up there? 

[00:02:44] Uh, 

[00:02:44] tony: yeah, Jetstar, 

[00:02:46] by the way, by the way, I have no problem, uh, saying Jetstar. So they booked me to fly up there a long time ago. They booked me Jetstar. I didn't get. It obviously didn't get told. Well, you're a Virgin Platinum member. And it was already booked.

[00:02:59] So I roll [00:03:00] up, extra luggage underneath was paid for. Yes. But to get on the flight, I didn't realise if you're a kilo over, 75 bucks it cost you if you're one kilo over. For hand luggage. For hand luggage. Now, normally, they say take something out. Like, for instance, I had my diary in there, this diary. I've got a paper diary as well as my, um, Digital diary.

[00:03:21] tony: Yep. 

[00:03:23] But you can take something out to get under the seven kilos. But the girl said to me, she said, well, we've got to weigh the iPad as well, which is from what I understand, that's not how they normally do it. Anyway, so I've obviously up, you know, maybe my head, you know, turned her off. I don't know, but I had to pay the 75, which I'm all good for.

[00:03:40] I had the extra leg room. I will give them credit. They're on time, which is great. Which is great. So I got up there, the plane was on time, the one coming back, but I got slugged 75 bucks on the way back as well. For hand luggage? Because I didn't put it underneath, because I don't want to wait for three hours for my luggage.

[00:03:56] I want to get home. I had things to do. So [00:04:00] anyway, so it's cost me, you know, 150. Oh, that's, that's really bad. By the way, the flights probably only cost 150 for Jetstar. And yet, yet they slug you for under. And by the way, if you want to buy a sandwich, that's 150 as well. 

[00:04:12] tony: It's 

[00:04:12] more than the flight itself. So they get you everywhere, but.

[00:04:14] I wanna talk about, there's, there's a guy up there that coaches the Kroo, the Kroo Roos Footy Club. Milo. His name is, I won't, I don't give last names, but his name's Milo Fairly, 

[00:04:25] tony: you know, unique name, unique 

[00:04:26] names . Everyone up there will name Milo, who I'm talking about. They've gone back to Back Flags, but they're called the Kroo Roos, right?

[00:04:35] The Kula Roo Roos. They wear a Carlton Guernsey. Yes. So why aren't they the Coolaroo Blues? It's a very confusing club. So Big Milo and a guy by the name of John, who by the way is 20 years without a beer. 20 years. So when I, when I got up and had a bit of a chat, someone mentioned that, Oh, I read in the paper and you know, that you haven't had a beer.

[00:04:58] And I said, well, it [00:05:00] sort of feel a bit bad for even talking about it because John over here that picked me up 20 years. Sorry. But I want to get back to the roots. So they should be the Coolaroo Blues. Yes, they're the Coolaroo Blues, right? And guess what their theme song? Their theme song is in the North Melbourne theme song.

[00:05:18] It's not the Carlton theme song either. Not the Carlton theme song. Collingwood theme song. Is there an identity? Talk, talk. There's, there's, there's real issue. But no, great footy club. Great night. Did you bring it up to Milo? Good, good bunch of people. Oh, I did. Yeah. I, I, I mentioned it when I got up late. I said, uh, I'll tell you what, uh, very confused, this footy club.

[00:05:37] So I had a lot of fun up there. So that was my weekend. Got away, but off to a bad start. Finished well. 

[00:05:45] tony: Yes. Well, speaking of international trips, what about Tasmania? Tassie? Yeah, well, the new club is upon us. There was a state election on the Libs got in, with the hope [00:06:00] of Libs doing a deal, or at least extending the deal that they've done in principle about having a stadium down in Hobart.

[00:06:07] tony: Well, that was the 

[00:06:07] other side that said they wouldn't build a stadium. Correct. Yeah. So they're okay. They've sold 150, 000 memberships at 10 bucks at 1. 5 mil. 

[00:06:17] tony: Which they should be congratulated for. 

[00:06:18] They should. They should have made it 50 bucks by the way. And even if they got 80 they would have had money.

[00:06:22] tony: Yeah, but what about cost of living? Oh, 

[00:06:25] agreed. Agreed. A lot of things are going up that should go up in cost of living. A lot of people struggling out there. We did speak about that a little bit last week. But well done to the Tassie Devils. Yep. I love the fact, by the way, Milo, Milo from Koolroo, he's from Tassie.

[00:06:42] So there were a few Tassie people living up at Koolroo. I've got a few hats my life. Toowoomba. So they're living at Toowoomba. A lot of people from Melbourne living at Toowoomba. Remember, I speak a lot about people moving up to Queensland. You know, that are from different states. There's a bit of an exodus.

[00:06:58] Running from something. [00:07:00] I'm not saying Toowoomba is the same. Who are you throwing under the bus? I'm not saying Toowoomba is the same. We don't, we know that the Gold Coast is very, very much that way. A hidden 

[00:07:09] tony: gem, so to speak. It is a hidden gem. Um, Grand Prix. Hang on. What about Jackie Lambie? Jackie Lambie has taken to task the AFL and Andrew Dillon about this potential new, um, stadium down in Hobart, as well as the new team, the Tassie Devils.

[00:07:26] tony: And by the way, logo looks great, but I have to agree with the Herald Sun's Mark Robinson. The jumper is lacking, but the logo is great. So Jackie Lambie's come in with a few truth bombs and has challenged Andrew Dillon and the AFL, saying, come down there, Spend a few days and realize the cost of living is off the charts and Tasmania can't sustain the what could potentially be the 19th team in the AFL.

[00:07:51] tony: Speaking 

[00:07:52] to all the Tasmanians that I know, they're a little bit disappointed in the jumper because it's a state jumper. Yes. Now some of these [00:08:00] people that I've spoken to have earned a State jumpers over Tommy. Big Richo. Including Milo. No, this didn't come from Richo, but Milo had played state footy, you know, juniors and all that.

[00:08:10] And so he's got that jumper. He wished that the jumper that they had was unique and different to the one that a lot of people have already got. 

[00:08:17] tony: Yep. 

[00:08:18] And it'll probably change. It's a good start. I love the fact that it's the Devils. Well done. Well done, Tazzy. And I love the fact that Jeremy Cameron came out during the week.

[00:08:28] And said that he would go down there. He's not saying he would, obviously, now, but if, in the right time, he would have gone down. And I'm exactly the same. Being a country boy, if you, if Tasmania were around in that time, and you had the option to go back and live, you know, a Tasmanian life, great produce, I've spoken about it.

[00:08:47] Anton is a Tasmanian, by the way. Yes. Um, but just everything about it. Everything. Azzie is good. It is good. It's cold and all of that. It's freezing people back. It freezing. How would you go? You love being Sun. [00:09:00] Sun. It's 40 minutes. 

[00:09:01] tony: Yeah, but people say that Sydney's an you get on a 

[00:09:03] plane if you want sun, you go to Queensland.

[00:09:05] tony: But if, what I'm saying is if you've gotta do a preseason play 23 or 24 games of and play a winter sport, I understand that. But how would you, you personally go and, and 

[00:09:14] you know, what about, what about the advantage that they'll have when it is one 10 town? When it's no. When it is the middle of winter.

[00:09:20] Yeah. And they train down there in the cold and they do all of those things and you haven't got a roof over the stadium and teams come down, you know, look out. I'm, I am wrapped for Tasmania. I think it should have happened a long time ago. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Should have been before Gold Coast and GWS.

[00:09:39] Finally, we're there. We're going to have a Tassie team. Well done. Well done to all the people that have joined up. Ten dollars. Have you joined up? I will. I will. I'll do it. I'll throw in the ten. I'll probably, you know what, I won't do the ten dollars. I'll do a proper membership once they're in. 

[00:09:54] tony: Yeah, okay.

[00:09:55] tony: What about if the team does [00:10:00] materialise, should there be 19 teams or should we make way and remove an 18th team to make way for the Tasmanian team? 

[00:10:07] No, not removing anyone. Tony? Just a question, Duck. Why would they, why would we want to remove a team 

[00:10:14] tony: now? But 19, as you said last week, the AFL has compromised in its current form.

[00:10:18] tony: So there'll be another 

[00:10:18] team some point down the, there'll be 20 at some point. Okay, so where do we go? Maybe Northern Territory. Yeah, okay. Okay. Wow. Could they sustain a TV? Talk about, talk about an advantage. Imagine going up, imagine them, home ground advantage, up there, you know, playing, you know, eight home games or whatever, a year, nine, ten, whatever.

[00:10:37] Would you coach, would you coach the Northern Territory Nuggets? 

[00:10:41] tony: Why would 

[00:10:41] you call them the 

[00:10:42] tony: Nuggets? Well, because it's an N word. You've got, 

[00:10:45] um, Aboriginal blood. Tony, you know what, why are you going off on a tangent? I think that would be the next team. Northern Territory. It's the most obvious for me.

[00:10:58] Yeah. 

[00:10:59] tony: Do you think [00:11:00] the Northern Territory could sustain an AFL 

[00:11:03] I think everyone from Where does the port come from though, Duck? I think the people high in Queensland would Yes. Gravitate towards the Northern Territory team. Yeah, correct. Just trip up. Yep. Get Jonathan Thurston in? Well, they might make him just like they did a couple of other players years ago.

[00:11:23] He might play, you know, a game for them. Get paid a million dollars. 

[00:11:26] tony: Who's the guy from GWF? He was a superstar. Yes, Israel Folau. 

[00:11:31] Yes. Carmichael Hunt. That's correct. Got paid a million dollars and did nothing. 

[00:11:35] tony: Both. 

[00:11:36] But, 

[00:11:36] tony: both ripping rugby players. They are both ripping rugby players. Now, what about our next topic being the jungle, which is a little bit, uh, west.

[00:11:46] tony: What, what, what are you talking about? I'm a celebrity, get me out of here jungle. Yeah, what 

[00:11:49] about it? Are 

[00:11:50] tony: we going there now? 

[00:11:53] You, jeez, you're stiff. What are you, we've, we've, we discussed this weeks ago. I'm not going to any jungle. It's now been [00:12:00] revealed, hasn't it? Now, 

[00:12:00] tony: are 

[00:12:00] you sure you are not going to the jungle?

[00:12:02] I'm not going to the jungle. If I was going to the jungle. Did Julia Morris or Robert Irwin ring you? I'd be, if I was going, I'd be, I'd tell you. I'd tell everyone. I know, I know people, I've still got mates ringing me and good mates. And family, ring me so you're going to the jungle. Now, from what I hear, this is a rumour, or has it been announced?

[00:12:23] Peter Dacos. It's been 

[00:12:24] tony: announced. 

[00:12:24] Peter Dacos. Peter Dacos, everybody. So he's the Premiership player and Hall of Famer. So you can put to bed that Wayne Carey is not going to the jungle. Well how did, how did that get confused that it was me? What else did they add? I've never seen the ad. How did it get confused?

[00:12:40] Uh, well, 

[00:12:41] tony: people put two and two together and came up with Wayne. 

[00:12:44] Yeah. 

[00:12:45] tony: Anyway, so it's Peter Dacos. No, did they offer you a contract? 

[00:12:48] No, I've, I have had it, I have had, um, or my management have had talks with them years ago about going on it. I've told you, I'm never, I won't go on any reality shows. I'm done.

[00:12:57] What 

[00:12:57] tony: about SAS for Channel 7? 

[00:12:59] Not a reality [00:13:00] show. You don't get voted in and off. It's not a popularity thing. It's a valid point. It's a hard thing. Anyway, so it is Peter Dcos. Anyway, Peter Dcos, well done. He's a ripping bloke. Yes, he's, he's obviously got, uh, he's obviously got very good, uh, breeding ability along with his beautiful wife, but he's going into the jungle.

[00:13:16] Be interesting to see how he goes, actually. 

[00:13:18] tony: Oh, I totally agree. The other thing is he's a ripping 

[00:13:20] fellow. He's, he's good fun. 

[00:13:21] tony: He, he's a legend of the Collingwood football Club and also the a FL as a whole, but he's now more well known. For being Nick and Josh's father, rather than being Peter Dinklage. 

[00:13:30] I know, I know, it's weird.

[00:13:31] Bit like, uh, Gary Ablett Jr. and Gary Ablett Sr. Correct. At one point. Yep. Yep, plenty of others, Joe Watson. By the way, I live, uh, live not far from the Grand Prix. Yes, topic I'm, uh, 

[00:13:42] tony: passionate about. Do you, did you go, didn't go? No, I didn't go. Look, as you know, Wayne, we've been mates for, uh, a long time. I only go to things now, whether it's corporate and, uh Okay, let's 

[00:13:52] be honest, you didn't get an invite?

[00:13:53] No, I didn't get that. Okay, so that's why you weren't there. No media accreditation. It was over [00:14:00] 400, 000. Perfect weekend. 452, 

[00:14:01] tony: 055. I 

[00:14:03] said over 400. I just wanted to specify the number. Um, perfect weekend for it. It was, it was great. I just can't get into it. I'm not a car, I'm just not a car person. I get, I get more turned on by the aeroplane.

[00:14:18] Now, the acrobatics and all of that. And I, and by the way, you don't have to go to see them in the sky. Well, you're only 500 meters from the track. Well, you can sand anywhere. You know, did you see a vicinity? Did you see that when you got back off your Jetstar flight? I, I did. 'cause the Jetstar flight was on time.

[00:14:32] So I got to see the planes go around and I, that, that's interesting. For me, that's, that's, I, I really like that. I totally don't have to be there to, to enjoy it. Did you watch them, you say the six acrobatic? Uh, yeah, I did. I watched 'em, I stood on, I stood actually when I got back, I, uh, what did I do? Stand on the roof of your car, quickly went to the gym.

[00:14:53] Yes. And then I went and had a quick hit of tennis. Yes. And beat a mate two sets to one. Just quick [00:15:00] tennis game. Well it was quick because he wasn't that good so I just whipped it. And then, and then stood there and watched the 

[00:15:06] tony: playing from the tennis court. Fantastic boy. Now the other thing is, why wasn't there an F18 yesterday going overhead?

[00:15:15] tony: That's one of the things, and I agree with you about the planes, we saw those six acrobatical planes or jets that were there. I don't know Tony, what are you upset about that, eh? I am, because every year, whether you are at the track, Pitside, or you live in St Kilda, or Essendon, or wherever you want to live, you always wait for the F 18 jet to scream over 

[00:15:34] Melbourne.

[00:15:35] I've just picked up on your point. Well, you know, we've been, but off, you know, in this podcast, I've just picked up your very, uh, you want to make a story of everything. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. Talking about stories. You want to make a story, how, when, when are the, uh, certain publications going to stop writing about the chook?

[00:15:57] Oh, the big chicken. He's, 

[00:15:59] tony: [00:16:00] he's in the paper every second. Well, well, let's start. We're talking about Ricky Nixon. Your old mate, he was the pioneer of sports management in this country. One of the best. Well, if not the best. Yep. So what's he done? 

[00:16:12] Oh, what's he done? You, 

[00:16:13] tony: you, you brought it up to 

[00:16:14] me. 

[00:16:15] tony: We were talking about it off air.

[00:16:17] tony: He's a good friend of both of ours. He's, he's found himself in some froth 

[00:16:20] and bubble. I don't believe anything that I read for starters. Oh, that's right. There was a story in the, uh, 

[00:16:23] tony: Herald Sun yesterday. 

[00:16:24] And you know, how do you believe any of this stuff? 

[00:16:28] tony: Well, it's hard to believe, but the other thing is because so many people see that with their own eyes and believe it, whether it be right or wrong, moat sticks.

[00:16:35] tony: I 

[00:16:36] get it. It does, but I don't believe any of it. And when you, you know, have you spoken with him? No, but I'll give the chook a call. I'll give him a call later and just, you know, see whether there's any truth to it. And we, we all know that when there's a story and if it's in the paper or on the news, I would say it's probably 10 to 20 percent [00:17:00] true, right?

[00:17:01] If you're told by someone, for instance, you have a conversation, you and I have conversation about a mate and. He says this is going on. The truth generally lies somewhere in the middle. Yes, there's always three sides. There's always three sides. Exactly right. So, no, eventful weekend. But is he okay though?

[00:17:19] He'll be okay. The Chook, he's been through. He's resilient. He's, uh, well he, he's, he is, he's got a very thick skin, so he should have. 

[00:17:28] tony: Yeah, now, hey, I just want to go back over the, um, over the Grand Prix, a couple of things I want to bring up. Now, our friends at the True Thirds podcast, Rebecca Judd and her partner Chris, they were, and her husband Chris, they were down at the Grand Prix, as was, you know, um, Brendan Favola and Alex Favola and a heap of other celebrities, but something Hang 

[00:17:48] on.

[00:17:48] So, uh, Rex has been football as celebrities, are they? Well, I don't consider my, I'm not a celebrity, we're not celebrities, we're, we're C grade at best. 

[00:17:57] tony: Yeah, well, what would you, 

[00:17:58] what would you consider a celebrity? [00:18:00] A celebrity? Someone that Well, Jeremy Piven was there? Someone that Every, does everyone want, watch Entourage?

[00:18:06] I'd say he's probably, if he's a, you know, Hollywood actor, AF, ex AFL footballer. Yeah, 

[00:18:12] tony: there, actually, there was Zac Efron, he actually, uh, there's a little bit of similarities 

[00:18:15] between you and him. Zac Efron. I would say, if you said his name anywhere in the world, he's a celebrity. He's a good looking rooster.

[00:18:23] If you went up to Sydney and said Chris Judd, they wouldn't know who he was. No, I don't, well, they would more so know Rebecca. So a celebrity, yeah, Bex, well, you said that before, it upset a few people, but no, but, and Juddy will admit that. Juddy's a champion of the game, but Rebecca 

[00:18:37] tony: is an incredible influencer.

[00:18:39] tony: Chris Judd is 

[00:18:39] one of the best of his time. Yeah. But ex has been footballers are not celebrities. They're in there. Says. Because of his radio now and everything else. Fev's more of a, probably a known person than what someone like Juddy is. Well Juddy's now a businessman. By the way, well done to Brendan for VOLA.

[00:18:56] Uh, not on the jungle, which got him back, he won the, uh, he [00:19:00] won the jungle big Fev, that got him back in town. But on being inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame. Yeah. Thoroughly deserved. Big round of applause for Fev. He was a super, he was a superstar in his day, Fev. Oh, 

[00:19:11] tony: and you know what, his career was cut short.

[00:19:12] tony: People forget how good he was. 203 games. 623 goals. He was could have kicked more. He was as good as 

[00:19:19] anyone on his day Oh, no question and he had it and he had real consistency there for a period of time And I love the fact that he loves my old coach Dennis Pagan. He revived him. He was just he would you know He was done.

[00:19:30] Yeah at the Blues and then when Dennis got the job Dennis got him back and became very tall Yeah, so well done fav. Well, I really deserve but Just don't ever call football or celebrities over again because we're not 

[00:19:42] tony: yeah, okay I'm okay with that and if the king has spoken well long live the king But I want to go back to Rebecca Judd now we know that she has made it known that she's unhappy with the state government and Jacinta Allen and Prudence sensor Daniel Andrews about the crime rates in Brighton.

[00:19:59] tony: You [00:20:00] love this crap. Yeah, well people want to talk about it What she's I tell you how powerful Rebecca Judd is. Yeah, the police air wing Hovering around Brighton Saturday night for half an hour. So you're 

[00:20:11] telling me you sit there in Brighton. Brighton. Brighton. And, what's the police helicopter because of Bekjad?

[00:20:19] tony: Not because of Bekjad, but if you can, um, You talk. Rubo is it? If you, what, well, you're making this shit up. I can prove it on my telephone, Wayne, that the police air wing was hovering around Brighton. Oh, so you've got 

[00:20:34] a police helicopter, um, tracker? Yes. Really? I do. So you've got a police helicopter tracker, and you reckon they're hovering around Brighton because of Bekchup?

[00:20:45] tony: Yes. 

[00:20:46] I'm going to draw that parallel. Oh, 

[00:20:47] tony: wowee. Well, the crime rates in Brighton have skyrocketed, duck. Theft of cars, break in incidents. And how are 

[00:20:55] they going 

[00:20:55] tony: since 

[00:20:56] the helicopters? 

[00:20:58] tony: I'm waiting for the next month's [00:21:00] report to come out in Parliament. Oh, fine. 

[00:21:03] Hey, well the other thing is, look, I've got a bit of an obsession with planes, I miss you.

[00:21:08] I have, there's, there's stuff. I'll tell you what. There's stuff that you're bringing to the table. Oh, look. 

[00:21:14] tony: I miss it and I wish actually we'd replace you with it. That's a good point too. Duck, Max Verstappen, 

[00:21:21] he left on his private jet this morning. On, on something a little more, uh, serious. Let's get on to the, there's some big topics going on in the footy world right now.

[00:21:30] And I want to start with two metre Peter. Peter Wright. Yeah. And, well I'm not, this isn't a Do you think he's a good player? Yeah, I do think he's a good player. Good. He's become a good player since he left Gold Coast, unfortunately. Yes. Uh, imagine if he was still at Gold Coast. Oh boy, they've left some good, some good players have left.

[00:21:46] But yes, I do think he's a good player. I just want to say this. So this has been sent straight to the tribunal, has it? Yep. Weak as piss, straight away to the AFL. By whom? What, Laura Kane and her? Well, whoever, whoever determined, whoever determined that that goes straight to the [00:22:00] tribunal is absolute, that is just crap and wrong.

[00:22:03] And I'm prepared to say, if Peter Wright gets suspended for whatever weeks he gets, I will not watch a game of AFL footy. I'm done. I'm jumping ship. And I, I actually would say to anyone out there, if, if we want this game to look anything like it should look, you're allowed to attack that footy. He's allowed to protect himself.

[00:22:25] They got to the footy simultaneously. He turned his body to protect himself. If he doesn't turn his body, they're both hurt. This is what our game's about. You're allowed to attack the footy like he did. And I, it's just gone too far now for me. So, I will not watch footy for as long, if he gets weeks. I'm not going to watch it for as long as he's out of the game.

[00:22:48] tony: Do you think they're diluting the 

[00:22:49] game in the contest? Absolutely. If, if, and a waste of his time, a waste of money. It's just absolutely, oh, just could not be more [00:23:00] disappointed that that's been, and the fact that they're not strong enough to make a call on it before it, so they have to send it to the tribunal.

[00:23:07] Why? 

[00:23:08] tony: I don't know. I agree. I think that's the strongest I've heard you on that topic for a long time. Players are going to be 

[00:23:13] petrified to even go at the footy hard. Oh, I totally agree. You know what, players are going to be tiptoeing around the footy and not even want to attack the footy. Is that what we want to turn this game into?

[00:23:22] tony: No, no we don't. And the other thing is, Harry Cunningham went and spoke to Peter Wright after the game and said, and this is obviously not verbatim, but said, It's okay, mate. Now Peter Wright has to, he is attacking the ball front on and then turns to protect himself when he realizes, 

[00:23:37] correct, and when he realizes that he, you know, there's going to be a collision, because he's running straight at the footy, when he realized he turned his body to protect himself.

[00:23:46] tony: Yep. 

[00:23:48] Hello? 

[00:23:49] tony: Oh, it is, it's really funny. 

[00:23:52] The other thing, when I'm up, when I was at Toowoomba on the weekend, no wonder, no wonder. The league boys up there call a certain names that are [00:24:00] politically incorrect, by the way, but they call that's why they're calling out. They call our game so soft. Yeah. Soft aerial ping pong or whatever, call it a lot of things.

[00:24:10] And it's because of this rhubarb that's floating into our game. So strong on that. The other thing I totally 

[00:24:17] tony: agree with you, Travis cloak. I'm sorry, just before we go, what should pay to write, get, uh, nothing, no punishment, none. Play on. See you later. Yep. Thank you. The other thing is, you and I spoke about this last week about, um, being, um, reported during a game.

[00:24:32] tony: I actually think that Peter Wright was mentally affected after he hit Kerry 

[00:24:36] Cunningham. players do get affected by that. There's very few players, once they're reported, go on and play good footy. 

[00:24:42] tony: Yeah. 

[00:24:43] Very few. 

[00:24:43] tony: Before we go on to, um, Travis Cloak, what about Marby Oldchole? Now, he needs Stephen May in the rib era.

[00:24:50] tony: He attacked the footy. He attacked the footy. 

[00:24:53] But So Peter, because he, because Peter can see, and by the way, so can Joel, see what's in front of [00:25:00] him, but he's entitled to attack the footy. Yes, with his knee though. You're allowed to jump at the footy. Yeah. You don't jump, you don't jump with your Not like a basketball action.

[00:25:08] Well, I wouldn't have thought so. No, no. You're taught to jump like that. Yeah. Play on. But where's the Stop. Where's the difference? So Stupid question. You know my thought on it. It may be a stupid 

[00:25:18] tony: question, but Marby old Chole has given Stephen May two broken ribs. It's called footy. And a cracked vertebrae.

[00:25:22] tony: It's called footy. No, I understand that, but I'm asking as a non footballing person, as in I didn't play at the highest level, you did, that what is the difference? 

[00:25:31] Well, well, that's a point that you make and you're exactly right, which is why Wright should get off and Chole, no case to answer. Play on.

[00:25:40] Travis Cloak, getting involved in a melee. Bye. Travis Cloak. So Travis Cloak getting involved in Malay, done nothing wrong. He went in, he pulled his players out and people are saying, Oh, what if, you know, other players got involved or the opposition and then all of a sudden, well, I think what Trav did was fine for what it's worth.[00:26:00] 

[00:26:00] And if anyone's saying that he should get, you know, a fine or some sort of suspension because of it, I just think that's absolutely ridiculous. If anything, he was getting the game moving. What was he out of his depth in terms of space and what he should or shouldn't have been doing? I don't know. I, well, I, I thought he was in control and, and I don't think he's got anything to answer.

[00:26:20] So what's your space in regards to it, but who knows? 

[00:26:24] tony: What do you reckon he'll be penalised? Hang on, have you got 

[00:26:25] a coin on you? Flip it. Yep. Cause that's, that's pretty much how we do things these days in AFL footy. You could flip a coin to what Peter Wright's going to get, flip a coin to see what Travis cloak's going to get.

[00:26:38] Do you 

[00:26:38] tony: agree? Yeah, I agree. By extension of that, I actually don't have an issue with what Travis Cloak did to surround the Essendon boys and pull them away from the contest. While we're on, while we're on Travis Cloak, 

[00:26:50] we can move on, we've, we've made the, the ball rolling. Why, why, why is Travis Cloak running for the Bombers?

[00:26:56] Well, I think a lot of people are asking the same question. He was a [00:27:00] superstar Collingwood player. 

[00:27:01] tony: Yeah. 

[00:27:01] Coach of the Eastern, um, Rangers. All Australian. Yep. All Australian player. So he was a, he was a superstar of his time. Played in the Premiership. I, do you think it's a little bit belittling that these players, I remember when Dale Waitman was running.

[00:27:17] Running. Flea. The Flea was running for Richmond. And I was just watching this absolute champion, legend of the Richmond Footy Club, legend of the game, state of origin captain, Victorian captain, absolute superstar running. I, I just think it's, I think a running position for these guys is, I don't know, nothing against the runners, but I think it's below the superstars and champions of our game to become a runner.

[00:27:41] Boomer Harvey did it at North Melbourne. He did. And I thought the same thing. I thought Boomer. Why is he running? He's the game's record holder. Well, well he should be, you know, and I'm, you know, maybe an assistant coach or something like that. But being the runner, I don't know, I just don't think it looks good.

[00:27:56] We had a runner called Kent, I won't use his last name, um, during the [00:28:00] 90s, Dennis Pagan's whipping boy. Yes. Probably all whipping boys do. A great runner. But he wasn't a great of the game, but he was a great runner. I just think it's a, I don't know, it just doesn't look good. Right to me to have superstars.

[00:28:12] Matty Bode runs for the Blues. Yes, he does. I think. Matty Bode. I'm okay with that, Bode. Sorry about saying this, but he wasn't an All Australian or a superstar of the game, so I don't mind. It doesn't look as bad. Well, when I say bad, wrong word. Yeah, wrong word. Wrong word, but it's just an unusual look. 

[00:28:31] tony: It isn't unusual.

[00:28:32] tony: I don't know. Well, give us your best story that, uh, Dennis gave Kent to give to you. 

[00:28:35] Kent, uh, Kent got more sprays. Dennis Page used to call him Mr. Magoo. He got called all sorts of things. Kent, he was a little bit scared to come to me. Really? He got within about 10 or 15 metres and yelled it out. 

[00:28:47] tony: What said the Craigsholtel ductus?

[00:28:50] tony: Yeah, 

[00:28:50] nah, he's a ripper, Kent. Very funny. 

[00:28:52] tony: Just by extension of Travis Clyke, there are a few, uh, ex stars running for clubs now. Look, Melbourne's got Reece Conker. What? No problem with that. St [00:29:00] Kilda's got Tony Brown, the left footer. No problem with that. 

[00:29:03] Sydney has Brett Kirk. Yeah, Kirky, too good a player. Ex captain to be running.

[00:29:07] Come on, Kirky. Kirky was a coach at one time. He was. I think in Fremantle. Yeah, it's too low for stars like that. Geelong, 

[00:29:16] tony: Shannon Burns. 

[00:29:17] Yeah, Burns is fine. 

[00:29:17] tony: Sorry, Burns. I think North Melbourne has now Daniel Cross, the ex bulldog. Oh, Crossy, a lot of B and F's. Yeah. Good 

[00:29:25] player. Probably a bit weird too. Not liking that, Crossy.

[00:29:30] Sorry, mate. You're too good to be a runner. Yes. Good call. Nick Malczewski at the Gold Coast. Yeah. Well, we know we kicked a goal at a grand final, but I'm okay with that, big Mal. 

[00:29:39] tony: What about Daniel Jackson for Adelaide? Yeah, I'm okay with that. Uh, I think Grant Birchall's Yeah, Bird's a premiership player, but I'm happy with that.

[00:29:49] tony: And then there's Port Adelaide's got Kelvin Phillip and then the rest we're waiting on, so. Well, you know what, you get my point here. Yes, I do. 

[00:29:56] All, if you've been an All Australian superstar and or champion. [00:30:00] Don't be a runner. 

[00:30:01] tony: Yeah, I agree 

[00:30:02] with that. Totally agree. Next, next controversial topic. And I don't know What have you got for us?

[00:30:08] Well, normally we're sitting here talking about the umpires and how bad they've been. And let's be honest, they haven't been great. Boundary umpires. But the boundary umpires. 

[00:30:14] tony: The boundary umpires. Who are they sponsored by, 

[00:30:17] apparently? You know the word, putrid. 

[00:30:19] tony: Yes. 

[00:30:20] How many balls have been out of bounds, and it's plain to see, and they have been in perfect positions, so well done to them for being in the right position, but who's their major sponsor?

[00:30:32] Well, you think it's OBSM. Yeah, isn't it? The glass? The glass company. Well, a few of them need to go in and have an appointment. They are, they have been shocking. Terrible. 

[00:30:43] tony: The other thing is, it's affecting games. 

[00:30:47] Well it is. Crucial, at crucial times, I mean, you know, sides of getting a, just getting a run and, 

[00:30:55] tony: oh.

[00:30:55] tony: Well the Kyle Langford one was the most obvious, where he's run, he's marked the ball out of [00:31:00] bounds at the SCG and then run on, played on, kicked to Merritt, Merritt's put the, uh, bombers within 11 points. And 

[00:31:04] the other thing is, when these players play on, and they're out of bounds, and they play on, you know what that is?

[00:31:10] Out of bounds. Correct. 

[00:31:12] tony: It happened in the Hawthorne Melbourne game, 

[00:31:14] I think. They do it all the time. 

[00:31:14] tony: And then there was Jack Higgins on Thursday night. 

[00:31:17] Yeah, I'm not sure about Jack. I'm not sure. That one, that one's a line ball, but there's been plenty of others that have been absolutely shocking. While we're on, um, um, let's talk about Collingwood for a little bit, but not Collingwood as a whole.

[00:31:33] What, specifically? Penelbury and Josh Dacos. Oh, Josh Dacos. Going to, uh, Grand Prix function the night before the game. Which was Wednesday night for Glamour on the Grid. And everyone's, a lot of people have made comment on it and, you know, everyone in this new world is saying, Oh, you know, it's, it's okay.

[00:31:54] And, you know, they're not drinking and they're doing this and, you know, they're partners. And I think Josh and his partner, they're [00:32:00] ambassadors. It's just not a good look for me. I don't, I I'm not, I don't. Especially when you're two and zero. Yep. I don't care whether you won the premiership last You're two.

[00:32:11] Yep. You're on. Yeah. Sorry. Um, I'm not, not a fan of it. I don't think it sends the right message, given the, the circumstances of the footy club this year. And their role within the team, so the best and fairest winner, the ex captain, the champion of the footy club, arguably the best player ever to play for your club.

[00:32:30] Penelbridge, yep. Just, don't, not a good look. I, you know, yes players have got to have lives. Yes they're drinking water, whatever, but you can't tell me they're, what if they're what? Paid. Same. They're well, they're well paid enough to not go to a, a little function. 

[00:32:48] tony: So Duck, you were captain of North Melbourne.

[00:32:50] tony: If you were Darcy Moore. I would never have, 

[00:32:51] would never 

[00:32:52] tony: have done it. If you were Darcy Moore, what do you say to Penelope and 

[00:32:55] Dacos? Um, well, Darcy Moore, I wouldn't say anything. He, Darcy Moore's [00:33:00] a new age guy that, you know, and, and by the way, I'm not saying, I'm saying in my opinion, which is right to me, I don't think, I don't They should do that.

[00:33:11] I don't think they should be at a function, you know, and, and, you know, they're probably talked into it by their wives, girlfriends, um, not sure, is Josh married? 

[00:33:20] tony: A partner. Partner, yep, I know, I know, I know, 

[00:33:23] um, Pendles is, but, you know, maybe they've, you know, bought a new frock. Um, you know, said that they wanted to go.

[00:33:31] I just, you know what they should have said? Girls, go and have a good night. We're focusing on the footy tomorrow. 

[00:33:38] tony: Yeah, agreed. 

[00:33:38] Just an opinion. Would you, what about two nights prior? Two nights prior, not, I'm okay with that. So if you're Night before, no. 

[00:33:46] tony: If you're Craig Macrae, Craig Kelly and Geoff Brown, what do you say to the boys?

[00:33:50] Well, there was, remember, everyone was up in arms when Ginnivan went to the races before the Before the grand final, yeah, yeah. And I know it's a grand final. Yep. But it's funny, you know. [00:34:00] Yeah, and by the way, I thought that was wrong and I said I wouldn't have done that if I was him. And for all those people out there that call it the new world, and we know that it's a new world and you know, you can't do this and you can do that.

[00:34:11] And you know, we're all fluffy. Um, I just think not too nice before, no problem. Not before pull the pin, let your, let your partners go and have a good night without you focus on what you get very well paid for rather than a little smidgen that you're going to get to go to a function and appear 

[00:34:28] tony: in the Herald Sun.

[00:34:29] tony: Now what about, uh, speaking of Kinnivan, what about his Hawks? What about them? Well they just 

[00:34:35] How did they get in here? 

[00:34:36] tony: Well, I just, I thought 

[00:34:38] Did you think the Hawks were going to play finals this year? No, but they were Well stop talking about them. They 

[00:34:43] tony: were despicable. Stop talking about them. A 

[00:34:45] lot of people are talking about whether Pennells and a couple of others, and now all of a sudden the age has come into it, all the experts.

[00:34:51] Out there, I love, jeez I love potting all the experts now. Who are experts? I'm not one of them. Collingwood are going to go back. Are you still an expert? They're going to go back to [00:35:00] back. They're going to win the flag. You know, and now, now guess what the conversation is? Oh, they've got eight people over 30.

[00:35:07] the wall is side bottom done. Like how's done. He's done. He's done. By the way, give, give guys like Pendlebury inside bottom. The benefit of the doubt. They are absolute stars. I'm not putting a line through any of those champions of that footy club. Yep. Um, are they done going to be very difficult from here for Collingwood for me, certainly to finish top four now, but, um, I'm not putting a line through those champions, is what I'm saying.

[00:35:36] Happy to put a line through Collingwood for finishing top four or going back to back, which I didn't think they would do anyway. But, um, yeah, ease up on the superstars of the game. 

[00:35:46] tony: Oh, I know it's premature, but do they make finals? Uh, I'm saying no. So, based on that, Duck, if they don't, and I know nobody's Nostradamus, but do you start to bring in the younger boys, knowing that in [00:36:00] potential Not yet, stupid.

[00:36:02] tony: Oh, I'm asking you, they don't want to hear from me, they want to hear from you. Well, not 

[00:36:04] yet. I shouldn't have called you stupid. No, the last point you called me stupid didn't go down too well. Sorry, that was a little bit harsh. Yeah, derogatory. No, but not yet. Not putting a lie in finals, but certainly top four.

[00:36:17] Oh. I'm putting a line. Yeah, okay. 

[00:36:19] tony: Well, but they need their players like Pendles, Degoe, Sidebottom. 

[00:36:24] Well, they're making their senior players, some of their senior players, and Pendles is one of those, and Darcy Moore, their captain, a few, are making mistakes that they just don't normally make. I reckon they've lost the hunger.

[00:36:34] So they can tighten that up. I don't know about that. Players 

[00:36:36] tony: don't lose their hunger. Oh. I beg to differ. Now, what about St Kilda? Now, I was actually wrong in Kilda last week. They haven't proven to be a very good side consistently, but I said last week, which was probably a silly comment to make, I said that they, are they irrelevant?

[00:36:54] tony: Now, they're not irrelevant, because they won on the weekend. 

[00:36:56] Yeah, yeah. 

[00:36:57] tony: But they're, I think they're irrelevant overall in terms [00:37:00] of, well they've won one. They could have beaten Geelong in Geelong. They didn't. 

[00:37:03] They beat last year's premiers. Yes. Yes. Like, give, give them a bit of credit. What Ross Line has done to this team and he's turned this whole club around in the space of a year.

[00:37:13] They were one of the only teams from round one to finals that were in the eight, so stayed in the eight the whole year. Everyone doubted them. Everyone doubted them. They played a very good team. in GWS. 

[00:37:26] tony: Yeah, that was fantastic. There 

[00:37:28] you go. So for me, St Kilda. Yeah. You know what? Underestimate St Kilda at your own peril.

[00:37:35] tony: Oh, I agree. I know you're a good mate of Ross Lyons. 

[00:37:37] Yeah, but they have been ferocious at the footy and the man with the footy. And that is Ross Lyon to a T. Yep. And he's mellowed, you know, to a certain degree. I love, I love, I love his press conferences. I love everything. I've got a lot of saints. corner supporter friends and they love Ross Lyon and they've rapped about where St Kilda Footy Club is [00:38:00] and all those Ross Lyon haters and doubters, what are you doing now?

[00:38:03] And there was some Kilda supporters out there that had their doubts about Ross getting the job. I tell you what, they're pretty happy with it now. I think the 

[00:38:10] tony: AFL loves Ross Lyon. I mean, if we button down our shirts, Did you see that? His, uh, latest turn of phrase? Button down? No. Oh, he's been buttoning down everything.

[00:38:21] tony: No, so, what I'm saying is, the AFL loves Ross Lyon. He's a brilliant coach, and I think he's going to take St Kilda to where they need to be. But, I was frustrated and had a lot of people reach out to me saying, Where the hell is St Kilda at? They need to become relevant in terms of Premiership speak. 

[00:38:39] I was probably a little bit overzealous.

[00:38:41] I don't think they're Premiership material. They haven't got enough for me. If everything went perfect for them, could they put themselves in a position? You know, never say never. I still think there's a couple of, they, they, yeah, I'm still not sure their whole list is, is capable of winning Premiership, but certainly finals footy as they showed last year.

[00:38:59] [00:39:00] Um, Very capable. Yeah. 

[00:39:01] tony: And what about Max King, your boy? Yeah. Three straight on the weekend. Yeah. So he's becoming a much better player. 

[00:39:08] Yeah. He's a, he's a very, very good player. Let's not forget he's coming off two shoulder, two shoulder injuries last year, came back, did really well and did it again. I mean, having been through those operations, that's a remarkable effort.

[00:39:24] He's got some real talent. He's still got a lot of, he's, he's got so much upside. Just in his leading, the way he's forward craft and the way he leads, leading patterns and, and, and working hard and getting to better positions and not just relying on his height and, you know, he's, he's marking ability in that situation.

[00:39:40] But if he learns some of these things. Special player. What did you say some of that stuff to him when you caught up? No, we didn't catch up actually in there. Oh, I thought he, he text you? No, we, we've been in, we were in contact. We made contact, but in the end, uh, it was, it was while he was injured and, [00:40:00] and anyway, it didn't work out.

[00:40:01] And I don't how you, how did you even know that? Did I tell you that? Obviously I did. 

[00:40:06] tony: Yeah, well, no, I think in terms of, if you can take Max King to the next level, I'm sure Ross and the St Kilda staff and the players would love to hear your advice as to what you might impart to him. Well, 

[00:40:16] who knows? We'd spoke about Collingwood, but what a big game Thursday night.

[00:40:20] Brisbane Collingwood, both without a win. Who, who are you picking in that? I'm going Brisbane. Michael Turf. Yeah, no, I think Brisbane. Weather will help. Brisbane have played better footy, albeit they haven't won. Yep. I think they've played patches of better footy than what Collingwood have. And the fact that it's in Brisbane, you would have to give them the, uh, the edge.

[00:40:44] tony: I'm going to ask a, what may be perceived as a And, and, and, and 

[00:40:47] it'd still be 

[00:40:47] tony: eating at them, I was just about to ask that. Was, I know Collingwood are premiers, but was Brisbane a better side on the day? 

[00:40:57] No. 

[00:40:58] tony: Collingwood 

[00:40:59] was better? Yeah, I [00:41:00] think so. I think, yeah, well they won. Um, I remember when the Crows beat us in 98, the next time we played the Crows we smashed them.

[00:41:08] In Adelaide. 

[00:41:08] tony: Yeah, okay. Oh, it's going to be a salivating match Thursday night. 

[00:41:14] Well, plenty, uh, well, we got through plenty there, probably, uh, upset a few. I've upset you a little 

[00:41:19] tony: bit. Well, if we don't upset each other, we're not doing our jobs, are we? All right. Well, we haven't finished yet. We've got one more salacious topic.

[00:41:28] tony: What? The footy shows. 

[00:41:30] Oh, that's right. We're going to, we wanted to talk about, how many footy shows are there now? Well, the, well, Channel 9's probably. So Channel 9 have always, hang on, Channel 9 is, well, Channel 7, the great footy show, one of the first footy shows was Talking Footy, so the great Bruce McIvaney.

[00:41:46] Yep. And your dad. Yes. Uh, you know, and, uh, Gerard Healy. Gerard Healy, Lee Matthews, Malcolm Blyde. Lee Matthews, Blyde. So that was. That was the greatest, in my opinion, the best footy show [00:42:00] that we've had. Now, Eddie and Sam and all of them, but that was more of a entertainment show. Correct. So, you know, sorry, Ed, in terms of an entertainment show, the footy show is, you know, 25 years, it was a juggernaut.

[00:42:14] The biggest thing ever, Sam made, Eddie and Sam and, and the football, Trev, so those three, Eddie, Sam and Trev, they made the footy show and then the footballers were just a solid act. 

[00:42:24] tony: Yep. 

[00:42:24] Whereas Talking Footy was, they, they were there, like, so Bruce and your dad and that, they talked football. It was a, a proper football show.

[00:42:32] For a purist. Correct. Whereas Talking, uh, whereas, yeah, Talking Footy was a footy show. The footy show. Was actually an entertainment show. So, now we've got Talking Footies back. Yes, on Channel 7, 

[00:42:45] tony: yes. Yep, what do you think? So there's James Brayshaw, Joel Selwood, Trent Cotchen and Tim Watson. Yeah, your thoughts?

[00:42:52] tony: Um, I think there's room for improvement. Do you, why? Um, I think they're 

[00:42:59] [00:43:00] lacking synergy. Come on, you, you, 

[00:43:01] tony: you 

[00:43:02] watch all of these shows. I've seen snippets of Talking Footy. Yeah, I think. By the way, well done to Channel 7 for giving it a go. They are the host broadcaster. They've just spent two 

[00:43:11] tony: and 

[00:43:11] a half billion, 

[00:43:12] tony: they should.

[00:43:12] You would have thought that they should have a footy show talking about the footy, given that they have all the highlights and rights to the, 

[00:43:20] tony: yeah. Well I agree, and your mate Kerry Stokes has invested billions. So what are you, so 

[00:43:23] yeah, so a mark out of ten, come on. 

[00:43:25] tony: Uh, for talking 

[00:43:26] footy I would say at the moment, um.

[00:43:29] Don't, and don't be soft. You're not one that sits on the fence. No I'm not. But six, so it passes. 

[00:43:36] tony: Yeah, it passes. Is that a pass? Yeah, it passes. But I think there is a lot of room for improvement. I think they need, Tim needs to be stronger. He seems to be the journalist out of the four. And I think Selwood and Cotchen need to be tougher.

[00:43:49] tony: Or like, not Cain Corn's tough, but they need to be tougher. Okay. 

[00:43:54] All right. Um, then you've got the Sunday footy show. Yeah. Great show. One show that I have tuned into a [00:44:00] little bit on a Sunday morning. Yes. And you know, after you have three games of tennis and you run in your gym. Every now and then I tune in.

[00:44:06] I, I actually think that's more of a, they do talk footy and they do have a strong opinion, but it's also got a bit of entertainment to it. 

[00:44:12] tony: And they make you laugh. 

[00:44:13] I enjoy the, I enjoy the Sunday footy show. Some people will, You know, and it's jocular and they talk about themselves and all of that, which is, you know, a little bit of truth in that.

[00:44:23] But I like it. 

[00:44:25] tony: As do 

[00:44:26] have strong footy opinions, but it's also entertaining for me. Then you've got the footy classifieds. I, I, just go back a sec. Who's your favourite on the 

[00:44:33] tony: Sunday footy show? 

[00:44:35] Ooh, who's my favourite? I don't really have a favourite. Well, 

[00:44:38] tony: who 

[00:44:38] do you like listening to? Um, Yeah, Lloydy's alright.

[00:44:42] I like, well, Lloydy, I like listening to Lloydy I think he makes a lot of sense. Yep. He's strong. I think they all 

[00:44:47] tony: make 

[00:44:48] sense. Yeah, but I, Lloydy's probably the more serious one on there other than Dame, eh? Yeah, but Cain, but Cain's good. I like the fact that Lloydy doesn't, He's trying to, he creeps into a little bit of [00:45:00] comedy here and there, which is good.

[00:45:01] But he, he knows what he's here to do. He's the straight man. Good football analysis and, and pretty straight. But he's, yeah, he's probably my favourite. Well, your mate Nathan, I think I like Cornsy, I've always said this, and I say this often. He, I like some of the things that he says. And I like that he's opinionated, and I like that he stirs the pot.

[00:45:17] And then you got Brownie. 

[00:45:19] tony: Yeah, I think Brownie's underrated. I think he can be jocular, but I think when he's serious, he makes some very good Damo 

[00:45:25] as a journalist is one of the best, and he has his knockers. I think he's brilliant. I like, I like the way he goes about it. All the truth hurts, mate. Say something that you really believe.

[00:45:34] I do believe that. What, have you got a problem with Damo? No. Oh boy. That'd be, uh, that'd be a good boxing. Meet him if you go to Adelaide. I would love, I'd love that. I'd love him to punch your head off. Oh really? No, we're not talking about violence, but I'd love, in the boxing ring with big gloves. I'll 

[00:45:48] tony: get Jake Melksham to punch you up.

[00:45:52] So you've got a problem with Damo. Damo's one of the best, one of the best in the business. I love Damo. Um, Nath Brown. [00:46:00] Brownie's, Brownie's brilliant. But I've I've said this last week on our little special, if Brownie gets beaten by Cornsy In a couple of weeks. He's in Frothen bubble. Well I don't think he'll be able to show his face ever again.

[00:46:11] tony: Well you might have to ring Kyle Stefanova. He can put your hand up and say, Bryant can't do the footage. I, I don't think he should. 

[00:46:16] Well, if he gets beaten by Kane Corns I'm telling you that would go on for, that will haunt him for life. Yep. Well, you don't think he's going to pull out. Nah, well, but on the flip side, if he beats Cormsey, he, he, he, he'll be reading the news next week.

[00:46:33] That's how big. Anyway, so the two footy classifieds, the footy classifieds. The Monday night one is good. I think Jimmy, Jimmy Bartell's common sense, he says it how it is. He's on the footy furnace. And that as well. But he's on one of the classifieds, he's on the Wednesday night. 

[00:46:49] tony: Kevin, Lloydy, Eddie and somebody else.

[00:46:50] Yeah, so I like classifieds. I think they're good talking, they're good football shows. Yep. You like Carrow? Yeah, I do actually. Yep. A lot of people, [00:47:00] uh, It's funny, a lot of people come up to me and ask me. Oh, what do you think of Caro? I, you know what, Caro and I have had our differences and the only differences we've had is when, you know, the truth has been muddled up a little bit at times.

[00:47:13] And I, I don't think Caro's the only journalist to write a story or get a story wrong. Let's be honest. She has a profile bigger than most. Yeah. And she's got a big profile. Yeah. And I think that's why, you know, people, and, you know, A lot of journos out there, including footballers, throw a lot of darts, and don't get a lot right.

[00:47:35] Yeah, I 

[00:47:35] tony: agree. Well, the other thing is And I 

[00:47:36] remind people of that. Caro is very good at her job, and her and I They've always got along reasonably well. 

[00:47:43] tony: Journos and the media itself think they are infallible, whereas they criticise footballers within an inch of their life, and then suddenly turn around and go, we are above reproach.

[00:47:52] tony: It is hypocrisy at the highest level. Then you've got 360. 

[00:47:56] Yep. Yep. Fan, not a fan. I like [00:48:00] the show. You like the show? Yep. Yeah, I don't. Oh, I guess if you're a real football nut and you, you need that every, every day, see every night for me is, you know, and I know that they have different things. What I like is when they have the coaches in or, or, you know, some of the players.

[00:48:15] So the Chris Scott's and the 

[00:48:16] tony: Adam Kingsley's, and I like the, and I 

[00:48:18] like the modern day, I like, well when I, sorry, not the modern day, I like the current players playing. Yeah. When they come in and talk. Oh, Jeremy Howe was last week. Yeah. Or Petrarca or one of those. You know, those guys. When they come in. I like when they come in and sometimes, in particular, depending on how they've gone on that weekend, I'll think, oh yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll watch that.

[00:48:37] I'll tune in. Yep. Absolutely. And then you've got the couch. Yes. Which I, I like the couch. The couch is the other one that I think, like Talking Footy back in the day, the couch I think. Well, it was 

[00:48:49] tony: based on Talking Footy. Yes. Yeah. 

[00:48:52] really is, is really, really strong. Well, you're a good man. Well, when you got, when you, well, when you got Buckley, Brown and Lyon, I mean, you're not [00:49:00] going to get a bad product and for the most part, they get really good guests.

[00:49:03] Well, all of them, you know, I think their credentials speak for themselves. I think they're all intelligent. I think they are intelligent. I don't think they over talk. 

[00:49:13] tony: Yes. Which is the key in media. I don't 

[00:49:15] think they just talk rhubarb for the sake of it. Everything's short, sharp, to the point, So, the couch is one of my favourites.

[00:49:23] And the new one? The new one, Midweek Tackle. Yep, with all your boys at the Hurling Sun? Uh, not sure three journos, just three journos can pull off a show that people are going to watch. That's just an opinion. I love Jay Clark, I've had a lot to do with him, he's a ripper, but he, I think you need another foot, you need a footballer, an ex footballer on there, not just three journos.

[00:49:46] No one's You're not, you're not throwing your hand up are you? I'd love, I'd love to know how many, uh, listeners or watchers they have, cause I don't think it'll be many. Well, I think you're being a little bit harsh, I think it's relevant. Why? Who wants, who wants to listen to three journos opinion? [00:50:00] Well, they wouldn't put it on if they didn't think it was worthwhile.

[00:50:01] Now, people will say, well, the couch, but no, the couch was, the couch and also talking footy had ex champions, legends of the game on there. 

[00:50:09] tony: But I also think, maybe you're right, maybe in terms of say, talking footy and on the couch where they had Mike, they would turn around and they had a journalist. So I think you need a mixture of both, not one three times journalist or one three times footballers.

[00:50:26] Yeah, great. So, for me, that doesn't really, doesn't really work. 

[00:50:30] tony: Okay. Well, I'm sure Steve Crawley and the boys will be listening. Yep. Alright. Well, are we done here? Well, I think so. Nothing else that we had to bring up and criticise and No, 

[00:50:41] I think we've been, uh, I think we've upset a few. Well, I think Peter And that's what The Truth Hurts is about.

[00:50:45] Well, exactly. It's about calling it as we see it. Yep. And some of the rhubarb that gets reported, you generally don't. Bring the truth. Bring, well, you generally are one of the people that, you know, like to talk a bit of that rubub. So, we're here to set the, [00:51:00] set the records straight. Set the records, exactly.

[00:51:02] Well, you've got 

[00:51:02] tony: one job to do this week. What's that? You've got to find out who Travis Essendon. And then the second job is, you've got to ring Laura Kane and tell her right the hell off. I think you'll 

[00:51:11] find a few of the ex champions might, um, sit down and, um, you know, have a good think about whether they should be a runner or not.

[00:51:19] tony: Yeah, I agree. I agree. Should Travis Clark continue for the next 20 weeks? To a club that 

[00:51:25] he's got nothing to do with? He will, but he's too good to be a runner. Sorry, Trav. Okay. Alright, well that's another episode of The Truth Hurts. You were fantastic earlier, though. Yep, good stuff. Thank you, Wayne. See you next week.

[00:51:36] Enjoy Easter.