Season 2 - EP #1 - Scooters, P!nk and Rugby in Vegas

Season 2 - EP #1 - Scooters, P!nk and Rugby in Vegas

Duck and new co-host Tony discuss the Christmas break, riding a scooter in Bali with the family, P!nk's recent Melbourne concert (and a run in with the singer in the past) and rugby in Vegas!

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Transcript

S2E1

[00:00:00] Wayne: I'm Wayne Carey, and this is The Truth Hurts. Well, welcome back to The Truth Hurts. And, uh, who would have thought we're back for season two. Although, there have been, or there has been, a major, major change. Actually, it's not as big as it, yes it is. It's, it's a huge change because our beloved, uh, Ian from Woolley.

[00:00:26] Wayne: Ayrton Woolley, uh, I've, I've finally got his name right because, and he's not here anymore, but he, uh, Well, he's gone back to the other side. He was, uh, I'd like to thank him, like huge part of this show. He's a, he's a, he's a great man, but, uh, he's gone and got himself Another couple of jobs and he's well, he's he's just far too busy to be honest to be working on a on a show like this So I've gone out and I've gone a little bit more edgy I've gone with a man that well as let's be honest [00:01:00] He's written a lot of stuff that has upset people and probably written stuff about me.

[00:01:04] Wayne: That's upset me as well but I've gone and got the man himself and Tony Sheehan who, uh, so welcome Tony to The Truth Hurts. I think Thank you Wayne. There's no question that you'll, uh, you'll add a, a different spin. Um I hope so. I, we've known one another for a long time and you Well, you'll bring out, uh, you'll certainly, you'll certainly challenge me.

[00:01:28] Wayne: Not that, uh, Anton didn't, but you'll certainly, uh, challenge me and we can, uh, get into some robust conversations about all sorts of things. We've got some really good guests lined up for the year. There's a lot of stuff going on. Concussion is the big talking point. It's been a big summer. 

[00:01:47] Tony: It's been a huge summer.

[00:01:48] Tony: But I should probably thank Ayrton for the building blocks, which he's created. He did a fantastic job through 2023 in the first 12 months with you. He was sensational. And now. It's [00:02:00] up to me to, uh, take off where he left off. He's going back to the mainstream media and collecting a 

[00:02:05] Wayne: paycheck from Channel 9.

[00:02:06] Wayne: A little bit, uh, I would have thought on this show it might be a little bit compromised, poor Anton, to, uh, not speak his mind, but What, time constraints or I, I, I think it's a, I, I think a little bit of everything. I think, you know, there's, there's certain things, but he, no, he, he massive part of this show and he's a very good mate of mine and I love him and it's sad, but take him to the bottom.

[00:02:27] Wayne: We, uh, we're we'll, we're gonna have a lot of fun in and around this. 

[00:02:31] Tony: We, I'm looking forward to it. You and I have, have spent a lot of time. Um, together personally, and now we're probably back in the professional Lorena, so we think they can both cohabitate 

[00:02:41] Wayne: well. Well, we hope so. So just, I don't want you sitting on the fence.

[00:02:44] Wayne: I know that you don't and, uh, I've never been accused of sitting on the fence fence. No, I, I don't And you have upset some people, but so have I. So 

[00:02:51] Tony: Well as have you. But you know what the other thing is, I wouldn't be doing my job. If I didn't, I'd upset 

[00:02:57] Wayne: a few people. True, and, and, I'll tell [00:03:00] you what it has been though, it's been a big summer.

[00:03:02] Wayne: Massive summer. Massive summer, and so, doing so many different things and, you know. Well, what have you been doing? Well, I've been out of the papers, for starters. I'm not so sure about that. That's, uh, that's, that's the first thing. I've, I've had a, had a, uh, sum up free of making the newspapers. Well, we know that is 

[00:03:20] Tony: absolute rot.

[00:03:21] Tony: Why don't we, why don't we, Ben, our producer extraordinaire over here, why don't we have a listen to what happened on Friday. An AFL Hall 

[00:03:29] Wayne: of Famer is dropping it as a jungle! He's a premiership winner too! Yay! But can he dodge a python's loving embrace? I'm a Celebrity starts March 24 on Ten and Ten Play.

[00:03:42] Tony: Oh, Duck? On Friday? Well, I forgot about that. Everybody woke up to the 15 text messages. Have you spoken to Wayne? Have you spoken to Wayne? Is he going into the jungle? Who's 

[00:03:56] Wayne: the AFL legend? How is that? Like, and, [00:04:00] I actually forgot about that, um, because it's just such a non story, and then it was written up that I was going into the ju I am not going into any jungle, I'm not on any reality show.

[00:04:10] Wayne: Categoric? 

[00:04:11] Tony: Categoric. Have you spoken with the producers 

[00:04:14] Wayne: of I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here? Many years ago I spoke to, um, the people, they didn't speak to me, they spoke to management at the time, and the answer was a quite, quite clear, uh, no. And I, I don't know where this has come from, so clearly, and the first time that I've seen Or heard that clip.

[00:04:35] Wayne: I saw the newspaper, but, uh, I didn't hear that. So they've sort of made it sound like it could be me. There are plenty of people, by the way, that have in the Hall of Fame and done certain things. 

[00:04:47] Tony: Yeah, well, Bucks did it, Fev did it, uh, I think Brodie Holland did it. 

[00:04:51] Wayne: There's been a few of them. Yeah, but I mean, the way they explained it.

[00:04:54] Wayne: Yes. Which I've only just heard. So, you know, they didn't say 

[00:04:58] Tony: 272 game star. 

[00:04:59] Wayne: [00:05:00] No, they didn't, they didn't give those specifics. So how that got onto me, but also little things I like to talk about. You wouldn't know this, but I like to talk about things that have happened, little quirky things with a family and, um, spent a lot of family time, uh, with the, with the kids and my eldest daughter, who by the way, starts.

[00:05:21] Wayne: College today. So we did a show, we did a show that, um, we did a show during the year that said she was the first Carey. To actually, uh, finish year, finish year 12. So she's going to college, uni, um She's also born on the same day as me. Yes, she has the same birthday, which is why I never forget your birthday.

[00:05:43] Wayne: Well, I probably have gotten yours, but not hers. She also went and got a piece, which, uh, was very interesting because Tell her how she went, tell us how she went. Well, she failed, she failed the first time. So she's going to be a university 

[00:05:55] Tony: scholar, but she 

[00:05:56] Wayne: failed her driving licence. Not happy, uh, well, she wasn't happy.

[00:05:59] Wayne: [00:06:00] No one was happy because it was, well, how's she going to get to school? Um, of not school, uni. And then I had to, then the next booking wasn't for three or four months. Or three months or something here in Melbourne. So, um, rang around and finally got her in at Melton. So I had to get up. Her old man couldn't pull any strings?

[00:06:20] Wayne: I had to get up. No, well, you don't pull any strings anymore. You just go through the right avenues and you, you get the job done. Oh, okay. So. Got her another driving test down at Melton, so drove her down there and the whole way down there had to Be giving her a pep talk about overthinking and you know, not don't worry about you know, if you fail just Concentrate and once again, just like when she When she actually, you know, got a diploma or whatever you call it, a high school, high school certificate.

[00:06:52] Wayne: How old were you? When she graduated, um, I was all teary. Well, standing there listening to the lady that took it for the test [00:07:00] and the way it started off, well, you should have checked that mirror, you should have checked that mirror. And then, Eventually hearing the, the news that she actually got her, her, her peas, um, you know, nearly welled up and Really?

[00:07:12] Wayne: Oh yeah, but they're little, they're little things and I was glad, I was actually glad that I was the one that, you know, took her down there to, to actually see that moment. What, was Ella's mum there 

[00:07:23] Tony: as well to 

[00:07:23] Wayne: enjoy the spoils? No, she wasn't there for that, so. That's one, that's one, by the way, she's a fair way in front.

[00:07:30] Wayne: So let's, let's not talk about that. The other, the other way is, the other thing that I did was, uh, I went over to Bali. So I had a, had a trip, um. Let's say given to me to go over there. So it was, uh, took the family over. Can you shout out to any former Essendon players? No, and stated, uh, friends of Jess's that have this villa called, uh, it's actually, I wrote it down because it's a little bit tricky.

[00:07:57] Wayne: Casa Infinito, [00:08:00] it's called. It's in Changu. Wow, what a, what a villa it was. Is this a freebie that 

[00:08:07] Tony: we've got to 

[00:08:07] Wayne: promote throughout the year? No, no, no, no, it's not. And this isn't a cash for common or anything, but that's, we stayed in their villa. And it was, it was, it was brilliant. Like just fantastic. Kids everywhere.

[00:08:19] Wayne: Beautiful sunshine. They had their, they had their kids, kids, everything else. But what I want to ask you, and, and this is what I want to ask the people that, You know, tune in to the podcast because we do this, we do this often and that is, I want to ask, is it, yes, that'll all be given out, is it right that you get on a motorbike with your partner, Jess, and your four year old son when you're in Bali?

[00:08:47] Wayne: Were you wearing helmets? They were. 

[00:08:51] Tony: Okay. Is this a first time rider, long time? 

[00:08:54] Wayne: They were wearing helmets. And this is a serious conversation because people, there'll be [00:09:00] people out there that say, Oh, that, that is absolutely disgusting. And you know, you shouldn't do that. You've taken your son into your life and Jess and you know, everything else.

[00:09:09] Wayne: And if you've got a motorbike license, so you, as we know, over there, you, you can get a motorbike, um, and you can get on it. Well, it's good. Well, that's what it was. Sorry. It's a scooter. Wasn't exactly a Harley or anything like that. It was, it was a scooter, but. It is that busy over there at the moment. If you, to get a car from point A to point B over a two or three kilometre period, you will be in that car for an hour and a half, two hours.

[00:09:36] Wayne: Did you think about 

[00:09:37] Tony: this when you hired the scooter? 

[00:09:40] Wayne: Absolutely. I did. And I mean, even, even me getting on the scooter by myself, you literally are. Now I would prefer, I guess, The decision that I made was to, we get on the back of scooters of the, of the, the drivers that over there that, you know, [00:10:00] like taxi drivers, um, there is a name for them, I'll think of it in a second, but they, they drive you, they, they ride you around, yeah.

[00:10:09] Wayne: And you obviously put a helmet on and all that sort of stuff, but I, I guess if it's my son and. And, you know, your partner, then you're responsible for them. So, it was my decision that I rode the bike. Now, when you're over there, you see eight, ten year old kids riding their own bikes. The local kids.

[00:10:30] Wayne: Clearly more experience on the bike. There are no rules. And I, I just wonder how many people out there think that that is, is totally wrong. And I, and I must say, by the way, no incident, no one got hurt. So it is dangerous, but it wasn't dangerous. Well, no, well there's, there's danger, there are, there's seriously danger all around.

[00:10:49] Wayne: And, and every time I got to point A, um, I almost, I almost said a little, Oh, you know what? Got through that without incident. Because it's not [00:11:00] exactly what you do, it's what someone else does. Yeah, of course. And it's not, and it's not the locals either. It's, it's, you know, other people like me that are over there that are riding a bike that, you know, maybe not that good on a bike or not as, not as sensible or, or who knows.

[00:11:15] Wayne: So it was seriously every time I got somewhere, it was a little, you know, thank you that I, I got there and, but in saying all of that, great time, son, um, you know, a lot of stuff with the kids and, you know, everyone had a, had a great time, but it is, it is a very topic I reckon. Well as you know. Because well there are just so many Aussies over there.

[00:11:39] Wayne: Yeah. That are. Amongst 

[00:11:40] Tony: other, 

[00:11:41] Wayne: um, countries. Oh yeah, of course. But more Aussies than other countries. Yeah. And, and it is a great spot to holiday to and, and absolutely love it. But it was just, it's, it's something that's played on my mind and, and it's a conversation that I've had with a lot of friends afterwards and some of them have said you are a nitwit.

[00:11:59] Wayne: An idiot [00:12:00] for actually. You know, doing that. How did that make you feel? Um, an element of guilt. Saying, oh, imagine if something did happen. Um, by the way, we're not, we're not breaking any barley laws or anything like that. Everything was legit, although I didn't have a helmet on, so. I did get, I did, I did get grabbed on the arm one day by, uh, one of the, uh, officers at one of the sort of, well they don't have too many traffic lights over there, but, and just said, so they pull you over and you get a quick fine and you move on, but there was this police officer.

[00:12:33] Wayne: Yeah. But there was enough traffic for me to get away. So I just sort of scooted through the traffic. You invaded the authority's lane. I did the rudder. I hold it. Does that surprise you? With Jess and Carter on the back. Yeah, well, Carter's in front. The story's getting better and better. Carter's in front, Jess is on the back.

[00:12:50] Wayne: But anyway, I got away. Look, 

[00:12:52] Tony: I'm glad everybody is, uh, in safe hands. I'm glad you looked after your, uh, your partner and your son. But I actually had my own incident. I was actually [00:13:00] at a wedding in Bali some four to five years ago with a mutual friend of ours. I thought I'd go on, as you said, point A to point B on a motorbike is a far better challenge than getting your car or a taxi or whatever it is, so.

[00:13:14] Tony: I, in my wisdom, thought that I would ride the scooter between a power pole and some brickwork, 

[00:13:20] Wayne: and Which is what it is over there, that's everything. So you go up, for those who don't know, who've been to Bali, when there's big traffic jam Um, you can either go up the outside, which you've got oncoming traffic.

[00:13:32] Wayne: Now, they, they know what they're doing over there. So there's, I haven't seen too many head ons. But what a lot of people do, especially when the traffic is at a standstill, that you go up, basically you go up onto the gutter, or you go up on the inside and there's generally a bit of room. So that's what you're talking about.

[00:13:50] Wayne: That's what I attempted 

[00:13:51] Tony: to do and found myself jammed in between the power pole and the brickwork. And as you know, usually wearing Haviana thongs or Things that [00:14:00] aren't quite that supportive of your feet. I've grazed my entire foot. I thought, oh, that stings a bit. So anyway, I ploughed on. Gave the scooter back, went back to the hotel, and decidedly, I thought in my wisdom, I would put my left foot, which was grazed and bloody, into the pool.

[00:14:19] Tony: Now, I had a wedding that afternoon, that didn't go down 

[00:14:23] Wayne: too well. You're a nitwit. Why would you put your foot into a pool? Well, there's that many, there's that many germs, put it in the ocean. No problem. I wasn't 

[00:14:32] Tony: thinking. So anyway, we ended up getting a plane 

[00:14:36] Wayne: home. So it all, it all just got infected. 

[00:14:38] Tony: And, yes, well I'm about to, uh, develop the story.

[00:14:41] Tony: Stupidity. Anyway, we got back to Melbourne, and my foot was like a balloon. Literally. So I've rung our mate Doc Larkins, and he said, uh, Tony, where have you been? I said, Bali. He said, oh, send me a photo. And he said, you should go to Welford Hospital right now. So I walked in, and I [00:15:00] said to the lady at the desk, lovely lady, and she said, uh, where have you been?

[00:15:03] Tony: I said, Barley, she says, what's wrong? And I showed her my foot, and she put me straight into this area where no one else was allowed to be. And then it dawned on me, the seriousness of actually what I had done. So I was in hospital for five or six days, with an infected 

[00:15:16] Wayne: foot. So, if, well, Serve yourself right for putting it in the pool, for starters.

[00:15:23] Tony: Well, I did think afterwards that it was probably a 

[00:15:25] Wayne: little bit silly. Well, there you go. So, so anyway, those out there that think that I was a, an absolute idiot. I already think that I am an idiot for doing it. Um, no, no issues. No one got hurt, but it is a, it is a topic and it is something that happens over there and you see people everywhere doing the same thing.

[00:15:45] Wayne: And I don't know, I don't know. Would you like to change something about it though? No, well I can't. What, what am I going to change? 

[00:15:51] Tony: It all depends on how vocal you are on this 

[00:15:54] Wayne: topic. No, I, I told you, I went, I also went to a rodeo. Yeah, I did hear [00:16:00] about this. Was this the one in Bundalong? Bundalong.

[00:16:02] Wayne: Bundalong, yeah. Yeah, there was a lot of, uh, a lot of talk. It was Australia Day weekend. Um, we won't go into Australia Day weekend. That's a whole new, that's a whole new topic. Um, and a political topic at about, at Australia Day. But Ben, Ben came up and. And, uh, took a little bit of vision, not as much vision as what, uh, he should have.

[00:16:25] Wayne: He should have, uh, he should have got, don't Mark, but there's a lot of, a lot of thing and, and saw a, an, well, I won't say an acquaintance. John Stevens was, uh, singing up there. Oh. From Noiseworks? From Noiseworks. Little pratt's partner, little bit of room. Uh, I, I don't dunno whether it's public or not, I dunno whether I can say, but Noiseworks might be coming back.

[00:16:45] Wayne: Is that right? Yeah, I don't know. Anyway. Is this breaking news? Maybe. You know what? I'd had a couple. Had he? I'd had a couple. No, he was, he was good. He had to sing. So I'd had a couple, but I don't know whether I heard that Noiseworks is coming back [00:17:00] together. You heard it here first on the truth hurts. And yeah, so, uh.

[00:17:04] Wayne: We did that. The other thing that has happened is Tay Tay, obviously, in town. 

[00:17:09] Tony: Hang on, you've missed a distinctive part of this talk about the Rodeo. Did you run into anybody 

[00:17:16] Wayne: up there? Um, no, what do you mean? Yes, you did. Who? 

[00:17:21] Tony: Did you run into some ex teammates up in 

[00:17:23] Wayne: Bundalong? Actually, I ran into a lot of ex Very, very.

[00:17:29] Wayne: No, I did. I saw, um, uh, Arch and Stevo were there. Yes. Um, ran into, uh, ran into those guys, said g'day. Uh, Brett Scholl was there and his sister. Um, so, actually ran into heaps of people. A lot of people were up there to watch John Stephen sing. And by the way, he was very good. Yeah, so 

[00:17:46] Tony: how did it go with Arch 

[00:17:47] Wayne: and Stevo?

[00:17:48] Wayne: Well, fine. Catch up with, Arch, whenever Arch and I see one another, we, we have a beer. Yeah, but 

[00:17:54] Tony: look, it's not 

[00:17:55] Wayne: my fascination, it's the world's fascination. Yeah, no, well it's not a world fascination, [00:18:00] but no, we went up and said g'day and, um, they had their country gear on and I had my RMs on. Your RMs on. Well, you've got to wear your RMs.

[00:18:12] Wayne: but then there was Hang on, did you talk to Steve O? Yeah, no, he said g'day, yep. How was it? Fine. No frost? No, well, no. Uh, but we didn't, we didn't stand around and, you know, do any boot scooting together or anything. 

[00:18:28] Tony: Well, you did say to me that, um, you'd walked over with, 

[00:18:30] Wayne: uh, four year old Carter. I had Carter, now five.

[00:18:33] Wayne: Five. Um, so he had his birthday, uh, not all that long ago. So he's, yeah. I think all the North fans 

[00:18:39] Tony: would 

[00:18:39] Wayne: love to see that you and Steve Yes. So we went over. The other big thing, and I'll put a photo, Carter's chosen his team. Oh yes. He's chosen. And it's gotten, and nothing to do with me, he's chosen the kangaroos.

[00:18:51] Wayne: Really? Yep. North Melbourne is his team. Purely based on colour? Uh, no. I, I think it was because he [00:19:00] had plenty of people, you know, trying to push him into other teams. Um. Like what? Carlton? Yeah, Geelong. And yeah, so Jess and everyone's like trying to push him to Geelong and um, it was just, you know what it was?

[00:19:14] Wayne: I think it's the tattoo I've got on my bum that he called a rabbit. Right, and the reason why he calls it a rabbit now is because it's a little more floppy than what they can. So, so, when I, do you reckon we can get a photo off of that? When I explain to him that that's a kangaroo, and you know, and he knows that daddy played footy but he, not to any extreme, I don't, so when I explain to him that's kangaroos, daddy played for the kangaroos, so for his fifth birthday he got the whole kit.

[00:19:44] Wayne: So I'll put that up. Also, you know what, I'll, I'll, we'll show the, the Barley, you know, the Carter on a scooter and, but his new, but his new kit, um, looked absolutely amazing. That's actually Ella, my daughter calling me right now to probably tell me how [00:20:00] she's going for her first day. So that's cute, but I'll get that 

[00:20:03] Tony: later.

[00:20:03] Tony: Um, now have you taken Carter down to Arden Street 

[00:20:05] Wayne: yet? No, but we will go, I'll take him to his first AFL game this year. And I don't know whether that'll be a kangaroo game or not, but I will probably be in a box. So don't, well, when you've got a young fella, it's just the first experience. I reckon the box is the right way to go.

[00:20:25] Wayne: Yeah. Not to be exposed to the elements. Well, you just, cause he, he actually noise for some reason he doesn't like. Really loud noise. So I think, you know, and the fact that you can just walk around and have your own space and that as well. I think that will be his first experience, but I'm glad that he chose that.

[00:20:41] Wayne: Getting back to Taylor Swift. Yes. Did you go? I didn't go. Um, everyone wanted to go that I knew, but I just, I failed to get, um, the right tickets, meaning in a box. So, so I didn't, uh, didn't venture there at all, but [00:21:00] Pink is back in town. She is in Australia at the moment. Which, and I've had mates, you know, all going to see her as well.

[00:21:07] Wayne: And I've, I've actually been to a Pink concert, but it brought up a very funny, and I read the other day, and I know you in the, you know, all your gossip and, and, and stuff, and you're well read on all of this. But I read that she, Well, 

[00:21:23] Tony: not quite, but she had a booking for the Manly Skiff Club in Manly. It's basically an exclusive place right on the water.

[00:21:31] Tony: Her and seven, uh, friends from her, from her entourage had arrived. She had a booking, apparently prepaid. She's arrived at the front door and said, yes, my name is Alicia, whatever it is. And she was reluctant to use her celebrity, and they said do you have identification to prove who you are? And she said no.

[00:21:53] Tony: And they said well we're not letting you in. Is 

[00:21:56] Wayne: that fact? That is fact. Or is that just 

[00:21:58] Tony: a rumour? That is fact. This [00:22:00] has been all over 

[00:22:01] Wayne: social media I want you to delve into this little story then. And I've told, this is called The Truth Hurts. Yes. And I haven't told anyone this, well very few people. And I was, it was many, many years ago, and Pink was playing in the Gold Coast, at the Gold Coast.

[00:22:18] Wayne: Yep. And she was staying at the Versace Hotel. And it so happened that, um, for whatever reason, well, as I've said on this show before, when I was on the run, and I was up in Queensland. I might want to preface that. I was on the run, and I was up in Queensland, and for some reason I was staying at the Versace Hotel.

[00:22:38] Wayne: Yep. And we happen to be on the same floor, which is one of the more exclusive floors. It's no longer called the Versace by the way, it's called something else. But happened to have, um, a room on the same level, which very few rooms on that level. So quite a Reserved for celebrities. Very, very reserved. So, I was, no, not for celebrities.[00:23:00] 

[00:23:01] Wayne: I didn't hear that. So I walked out onto the balcony this day and I had a little friend with me. And then, um, and, and a lot of people that know me know Van, a little guy, lovely guy, liked his music, traveled the world, uh, had a guitar with him all the time, and music was his life. He'd been to see Pink, I don't know how many times, he's been, you know, Van Halen was his favorite, favorite band, which is why he ended up renaming himself Van.

[00:23:32] Wayne: I didn't know that. Right, yeah. So We were out in the balcony and he looked to the left. I, I was oblivious. He looked to the left and it was pink. And I think her partner, his name Kerry, actually Corey, I think Kerry, is it? It's Kerry. Yeah. Okay. Spelled the same too, I believe. But he's got all excited and he's gone.

[00:23:52] Wayne: Oh. You know, but he, he used to call me rude Boy, hey, real boy. Like he, he was a massive North supporter. We got to know one another. He knew [00:24:00] Dennis Pagan and Arch and all the guys, like, he'd go down to training and, um. Anyway, he's got that excited about Pink and he's gone out, he's written this letter, sat down and wrote this full on letter to Pink and gone and stuck it under their door.

[00:24:18] Wayne: And basically the letter said was, Hey, Hey, just letting you know, I'm here with, you know, Rule Boy, she's probably thinking, what's, what's this guy on about? I'm here with Rule Boy, um, come down and, and, and have a drink with us. Anyway, I thought, I've clearly had no response, thought nothing of it. Two or three days later, sitting back at, uh, my house at the time, and reading the paper, and it said, and it said, Pink left Versace because of a security breach.

[00:24:53] Wayne: Really? Yeah. And I'm trying to work it out, now I don't know whether, I don't know whether that [00:25:00] security breach was. By the way, Venn's no longer with us. So, if he's done anything wrong, nothing you can do about it. Don't hold him accountable. Yeah, but he's no longer with us. Um, but he, yeah, I would love to know whether that was the security breach.

[00:25:18] Wayne: Why pink? Had to leave the Versace, or she left the Versace hotel because of that security breach. 

[00:25:25] Tony: She may be listening to this now that she's in Australia. Well, I get it. Even though we're worldwide, I mean, the truth hurts would go, I think, where is she at the moment? 

[00:25:33] Wayne: She in Melbourne? No, well she was in Melbourne the other day, I don't know where she is now.

[00:25:37] Tony: Well, she's not catching up with um, Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian? 

[00:25:42] Wayne: Let's talk a little bit of footy, we're on the verge of Yes, we've got to talk about footy. We're on, we're, we're nearly there. We're nearly there, it's been a long summer, plenty happening. One of the, one of the things that does, does annoy me is, and spoken a lot about this over the years, is when a player becomes a free [00:26:00] agent, how much better they become.

[00:26:02] Wayne: Yes. Anybody in mind? Cam Zurhar. The North Melbourne Forward. Yep. Straight, straight to mind. Love the way he plays footy. Love his toughness. Got a bit of Glenn Archer about him. The way he goes, goes at the footy. By the way, not even, not even close to Glenn Archer in terms of what he's done or what he has done.

[00:26:22] Wayne: But he has, you know, that similar build, similar attack on the footy. He's a big boy. Not as good as, not as good on the deck or the, you know, the ferocious way that Arch went about the footy. He doesn't have that, but he certainly has Archer elements to him. Yep. So I love all of that about him, but he hasn't done anywhere near enough to be talked about the way he's been talked about.

[00:26:45] Wayne: Well, there 

[00:26:45] Tony: was a report the other day on channel nine in Melbourne that he had put off contract talks until the mid 

[00:26:51] Wayne: year. Yeah. Well, well, maybe he's backing himself in. And if he has a really good first half of the year, then all of a sudden he's worth what he's worth. But [00:27:00] it just annoys me that, you know, they spend all of this time and then they get built up like this, you know, super player.

[00:27:07] Wayne: I don't know whether he's finished in the top 10 in their BNF or not. I haven't even looked at that. I would assume not. Um, and at a club that has been on the bottom of the ladder and a player that's been talked about as this unbelievable free agent. You know, I just think, I think it's very premature, and what it does is it gives these, it gives them a false sense of worth, what they're really worth.

[00:27:32] Wayne: And Cam Zerha should stay at North Melbourne and, and, and fulfil what I think he could get to, but he's not there yet to be talked about as this, like I said, unbelievable free agent. Have you ever met him? Um, I think I've said. Yeah, just in passing, not really. 

[00:27:50] Tony: Yeah, well we know coaches use you to um, to educate some of their forwards like Jesse Hogan in the past and Max King.

[00:27:57] Tony: So what would you say if you went out and had a beer with Cam Zuerhauer [00:28:00] on Saturday? No, 

[00:28:01] Wayne: I would, I'd think that he's, he's um, area to work on is to get more of the footy. Yep. That's quite simple. So it's just about getting to contests and um, work rate. I mean, uh, you know, for me, just doesn't do enough consistently enough.

[00:28:20] Wayne: Yeah. But what, but we, he can do some unbelievable things. I mean, he has, you know, use another example, Jordan to go in type sort of ability at times in and around the footy because he's got that bullish strength, but clearly not in their conversations. 

[00:28:37] Tony: Yeah. Oh, the good thing about to go is he is becoming consistent.

[00:28:43] Wayne: He's, he's, uh, grand final was unbelievable as was his prelim and, um, you know, he looks like he's in for another massive year. Who else? What else have we got in the footage? Well, Clayton Oliver, Melbourne. Well, yeah, I was 

[00:28:56] Tony: just going to bring up Melbourne. They have had a shocking off season. Well, [00:29:00] 

[00:29:01] Wayne: They've been in the news a lot.

[00:29:03] Wayne: Yeah. That's for, that's for sure. Clayton Oliver, I love For reasons I shouldn't. Love seeing him get back to where he got to only a couple of weeks ago. Yep. Clearly not Not in any position to be judgmental or also talk about what's going on in his private life. Because let's be honest, none of us actually really know.

[00:29:24] Wayne: The only people that know are probably his physicians and himself. We hear a lot of things, though. Yeah, we hear a lot of things, but most of them are bullshit. So we hear a lot of, rumour and innuendo around Melbourne and it continues to flow. We've got, you know, Joel Smith, the issue that really irked you, didn't it?

[00:29:44] Wayne: The thing with Joel Smith is, I reckon he's been thrown to the wolves. I agree. I reckon he's been thrown to the wolves. If he was a, if he was a really good, and no disrespect to Joel, but you know, he's probably been a fringe player. He's had a few [00:30:00] injuries, um, and a few things, you know, not go his way. But if he was a really good player, this would be treated very differently from everyone.

[00:30:11] Wayne: From everyone. And I, and I, and I don't like the way the commentary around him has, has been, you know, it's been really, really poor. 

[00:30:22] Tony: Yeah, and the allegations thrown against his name was shocking. Literally shocking. And I'm not sure whether there's any validity to it, but how would you feel if those allegations were thrown against you, and thinking, Hang on, that's not me, that's not who I am, I'm a Melbourne Demon AFL player, and there's no truth to it, and it is shocking.

[00:30:41] Wayne: It'd be a lot to deal with. Well everyone's talking, you know, the details The details, well what do they say, the devil's in the details, is that it? Yep. We don't know, when you read all of this stuff in the newspapers or hear it on the news, the details that [00:31:00] you're given are swayed. Yeah. Oh, and scanned. And it's not, yeah, correct.

[00:31:04] Wayne: So it's not, you're not, and that's why it's very hard to comment, but what I can comment on is, is the talk in and around him. Yep. And the way, and the support that he's been given, I think has been piss poor. By whom? I think by everyone. I think by Melbourne, I heard, I've heard a few players, I've heard Max Korn, uh, you know, stick up for him and say that, you know, they could talk, but apparently they're not allowed to talk with one another.

[00:31:28] Wayne: Certainly about footy or whatever. I just really do think that if this was a player that, you know, had more talent and a higher profile. I reckon there'd be way more done about this and there'd be more excuses made for him than what are being made for poor Joel Smith. So they've had an interesting summer.

[00:31:50] Wayne: I think, I think that Melbourne are one of the teams to beat still, to be honest. I do. Top four? Have the ability to finish top four. 

[00:31:58] Tony: Yeah. Look, just to digress for only a [00:32:00] second, Wayne, I think the Players Association's reaction to not only Joel Smith. And by a little bit of an extension, Clayton Oliver and also Taron Thomas, I think, has been really average.

[00:32:12] Tony: I mean, these guys are, as Peter just said, union members. So the Players Association, yes, has to worry about what society says, but also come out in defence of the unionists, sorry, their player, and say, we don't condone what X is alleged to have done, but he is one of us. And we will fight for him. They just, I don't think 

[00:32:32] Wayne: they do enough of it.

[00:32:33] Wayne: No, I agree with that. I've always said that. That the Players Association needs to, the support in and around their players after they retire for a whole number of reasons has to, has to improve a lot. And there can't be a blanket solution for one. Because there are players that are in the system a lot longer than others.

[00:32:49] Wayne: And have different issues. Have, have a lot of different 

[00:32:52] Tony: issues. Now, sorry, just before you go on Ducco, Um, There was a bit of a rumour that was going around mid last week, when [00:33:00] everybody's phone was going hot about a good mate of yours, also coach of the Demons. Did you hear that? 

[00:33:06] Wayne: No. Oh, we'll leave that alone then.

[00:33:07] Wayne: No, what, what's, 

[00:33:08] Tony: what's the rumour? Well, there was a rumour going around, uh, amongst the AFL community that, um, Goody was going to be sacked as coach of the Melbourne Footy 

[00:33:19] Wayne: Club. Oh, what a load of So this is what I mean about rumours. I mean, has there been a I don't know, well, should we bring it up? Hasn't been a I don't know.

[00:33:26] Wayne: Well, you probably shouldn't because you're just adding to the rumor, but I've a lot of people. It's probably why I don't I shut off to a lot of rumors and and and when things are, you know, forced down your neck or you do obviously hear some, some of them, but you just, you just can't, you just can't delve into it.

[00:33:44] Wayne: It's, it becomes, it becomes a life in itself. It really does. And then people really start to believe it. And there's been plenty, plenty of rumors going around. I was also, um, Um, wanted to talk about the NRL and Vegas. [00:34:00] Yes, at Allegiant Stadium. What could go wrong with sending a bunch of rugby league boys to Vegas?

[00:34:07] Tony: Well, it's a favourite pastime of yours 

[00:34:09] Wayne: to go to Vegas. Not anymore, it was. Um, how do you think that went? 

[00:34:15] Tony: Look, to be honest, I thought the, the prelude to the game was sensational. I think Fox Sports did a fantastic job. Can't fault them. Game, I didn't see 

[00:34:25] Wayne: enough of. Playing on a compromised ground. Yeah, well I saw the trial match.

[00:34:28] Wayne: Playing in Vegas. What was the, what was the, uh, what was the crowd like? Uh, 

[00:34:33] Tony: I don't think it met expectations. 

[00:34:34] Wayne: How many viewers? Do we know that? Uh, 

[00:34:37] Tony: I don't know whether the figures have 

[00:34:38] Wayne: been released. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah. 

[00:34:42] Tony: What, the entire exercise? 

[00:34:44] Wayne: Well, I don't, I don't know whether it becomes a, whether it's a success or not.

[00:34:48] Wayne: I do love the fact that they're branching out. But I, I would, I, when, when I first heard about it, I thought, okay, so I'm in Vegas. Yes. I'm an Aussie. So I love, brought up with rugby [00:35:00] league. It's my, it was my first love as a football code. So, love watching it, Parramatta supporter, then Canberra, became, I love Canberra because you know, when they came into the comp and then I love the Melbourne Storm because I, you know, got to meet a lot of them and we won the Premiership in the same year and all of that sort of stuff.

[00:35:20] Wayne: So I, I really love Rugby League, but yeah, I, um. If I'm in Vegas, like I said, and I'm an Aussie and I love it, uh, and then, I don't know, Mariah Carey's singing down there, and Adele's singing down there, and back once upon a time, Elvis is singing down there, and you've got David Copperfield making an elephant disappear down there.

[00:35:43] Wayne: Yes, and then human nature across the road. Yeah, whatever. Am I going to a rugby league game? Probably not. No, 

[00:35:50] Tony: I wouldn't have thought so. Okay, putting the shoe on the other foot, what if you were still playing for North Melbourne, and they said, Alright boys, there's going to be four teams travel to 

[00:35:57] Wayne: Vegas.

[00:35:58] Wayne: Yeah, I'd be there for all the other [00:36:00] reasons. So I'd go and watch all those shows that I was talking about. Nah, well you'd go there and, and play and play well and then you'd go to a, go to one of the shows. Go to a pool party. But if, 

[00:36:10] Tony: but if. But it has been marred, you know 

[00:36:12] Wayne: about this don't you? Versace pool party, that's, that was a, that was a good one.

[00:36:16] Wayne: No, I never went to 

[00:36:16] Tony: the pool parties but apparently. 

[00:36:18] Wayne: Sorry, not Versace, Versace tion. Venetian. Venetian, Venetian. 

[00:36:21] Tony: Um, now Wayne, you know in the wake of, there was a racial allegation labelled against a Sydney City Rooster from yesterday's game? And apparently, according to the Daily Telegraph, has descended into a bit of a dust up in the hotel after the game.

[00:36:37] Tony: Oh, I don't 

[00:36:37] Wayne: believe that. Dust up could mean anything. Well, I'm only going on what I read. Yeah, exactly. Someone said something or, like, just don't read that crap. Mate, I've, I've, the amount of times someone has said that there's been a big blue and, and then you, you get to the, the nuts and bolts of it and nothing has even 

[00:36:55] Tony: happened.

[00:36:56] Tony: Well, you two met like, um, the Broncos 

[00:36:58] Wayne: a few weeks ago. So, anyway, are we [00:37:00] saying that that's a success or not? The NRL? I'm saying yes. 

[00:37:03] Tony: You are? And 

[00:37:04] Wayne: you're saying? No, I'm saying good on them for having a go at it. I just think Vegas was an unusual place to have it because of everything else going on in Vegas.

[00:37:14] Wayne: I just think there's more to do in Vegas than go to a rugby league game. Yeah, party. 

[00:37:18] Tony: Correct. 

[00:37:20] Wayne: Well, it is correct. Talk about partying. Went to the Chairman's Lounge at Flemington. 

[00:37:28] Tony: Yep. 

[00:37:29] Wayne: What, recently? Recently, and was in there, had a table with the GBS, so just having a good day. And Tell me whether I should be upset about this or not, but you get it by the way, gamble responsibly.

[00:37:42] Wayne: And, and in saying that we're going to announce that we have an affiliation with a, with a betting company, which we will, which we will talk about next week. Cannot wait. All right. So we'll talk about it. Um, at the chairman's Bet, you know, like I said, [00:38:00] gamble responsibly, but going to put a bet on race two at, at Flemington.

[00:38:04] Wayne: So not, I'm not betting in Sydney, not betting in Tassie or Badalade or anywhere else. It was at Fleming, race two, and I've gone to put the bet on and there's this bloke in front of me. Now it's on a day, so it's only a few weeks ago, so it's, Flemington's not busy. The Chairman's is half full. And I know a lot, you know, a lot, a lot, a lot of people in there.

[00:38:23] Wayne: Big Michael Christian was in there. Is he still going to be working for the MRO? Um, is he still going to be doing that? I'm not sure, actually. That's a tough job, by the way, but he's in there. So his brother is standing behind me. So there's now three of us in a line, uh, the guy that was getting served. And then there was myself and Chris O's brother.

[00:38:43] Wayne: So, no, but I could tell, I could tell it was his brother. Cause they look very similar. So. So, this guy is, got his booklet out, he's putting 5 on every race at Flemington and other places and [00:39:00] he's, and it's not about the amount of money that he was putting on but he's going, I want this for a place, 5 and he's flipping, he's singing, he's got the, the, the page turned over, ear turned over and he's going another 5 on this and I'm looking, I'm looking up and I can see that the race is about to start, right?

[00:39:16] Wayne: And I just, and politely. As you do, I just went around, and the lady that was sitting there, and I said, Oh, excuse me, excuse me sir, do you mind if, I've noticed you're putting a few bets on, but I want to put a bet on, on this race. And he just said, Oh, one more. Right? This guy goes, Oh, one more. And she, and, and the lady said, Yeah, yeah, no, he's entitled to do that.

[00:39:39] Wayne: And I said, But I want to put a bet, and as did Chris O's brother. Guess what? They jump and you wouldn't believe it. It wins. Oh, no. What did 

[00:39:47] Tony: it pay? Eight bucks you would've had 

[00:39:51] Wayne: on it? I, no, it doesn't matter what I would've had on it, but I looked, so I looked at, I, that Chris, I looked at, well, we went over and had a whinge.

[00:39:59] Wayne: I [00:40:00] went over and had wind with Chris. So, and the brother, his brother. And then the whole day, I just couldn't get over it. I, I, it, it stayed with me all day. It's gotta be better than that. If you're putting a bet on Shouldn't you have 

[00:40:13] Tony: at least two cashiers? 

[00:40:14] Wayne: Well, if you're putting a Well, you would have thought, but like I said, it wasn't It wasn't busy.

[00:40:18] Wayne: But you don't You can't allow someone to just stand up there and just continue to put bets on. So, anyway So that's your bugbear for the day? Let me know. That That is my bugbear. Have you spoken to the chairman? Eh? 

[00:40:27] Tony: I think Is, um, Is Gil McLachlan becoming the chairman, or is he for the 

[00:40:31] Wayne: opposition I've got no idea.

[00:40:33] Wayne: Come on, Ducky, you've gotta read the papers. No, I've got no idea. So, big week, do you agree on Uh, the footy being this round zero, uh, 

[00:40:43] Tony: yes, because I think some of the clashes are going to make for a sensational round of footy. I mean, I watched a little bit of the, um, of the games on the weekend and which will lead us into our, um, next topic of, uh, Jimmy Webster being dimwit of the week.

[00:40:59] Tony: [00:41:00] But I just, I feel like the AFL should be, shouldn't play, um, practice games. They need to be all in or nothing. Like, play practice matches against themselves. I think it dilutes from the Home and Away series. 

[00:41:12] Wayne: Well, once upon a time it used to be a big thing. Used to be? Yeah. So, Ancet Cup and, and, uh, I don't know, what other.

[00:41:18] Wayne: Virgin. There was, yeah, a few different, Foster's Cup back in the early days. Foster's Cup. When you were about 18. Yeah, well, and, and, and actually winning one of those night grand finals was a big thing for North Melbourne because you won, well because, yeah, because you won, uh, good, the prize money was actually quite good and it was a really good lead into the season, but, as you said, times have changed, probably, uh, you might have a very good point there.

[00:41:40] Wayne: Um, 

[00:41:41] Tony: yeah, on to the next one. Yeah. North Melbourne captain. Yes. Jimmy? Yeah, Jimmy Webster. Yeah. Yesterday at Moorabbin. 

[00:41:50] Wayne: Ah, just. Well it's just a brain fade and it's, it's, you know, and he had, he had plenty of time [00:42:00] not to go through with that hit. Why didn't he tackle? Yeah, plenty of time. Well, it was late anyway, the kick, and he knew that he was going to get late but left the ground.

[00:42:11] Wayne: Um, Ah, just, yeah, stupidity. A lot of talk about how much he should get. 

[00:42:16] Tony: Well, one of your old teammates, who's very vocal in the media, is David King. Yep. He came out, I think, afterwards and said, minimum 10 weeks. 

[00:42:25] Wayne: Yeah, 10 weeks is probably a bit harsh. A bit harsh? 

[00:42:27] Tony: Yeah. I don't condone what Jimmy Webster did on Jai Simkin, but 10 weeks?

[00:42:32] Wayne: Yeah, no, not 10 weeks. 

[00:42:33] Tony: I agree. It's how Pepper got four and I think there was probably just 

[00:42:37] Wayne: as much intent. You know, he's going in, he, he, he, he's going in to, to put pressure on and strong physical pressure and he's just got it terribly wrong. So it's not a, it's not a dirty like king hit, um, act that, you know, we've, we've seen.

[00:42:53] Wayne: At different times. Uh, those types of things are 10 weeks. It is in a footy bumping [00:43:00] motion, but the fact that he leaves the ground, he hits the head, he's in a lot of trouble. He get, I think you'll get at least six. 

[00:43:06] Tony: I would be happy with five. But the other part being, I know how football conscious we are here in Melbourne, but Channel nine i don't you, you don't watch, um, mainstream media anymore.

[00:43:17] Tony: They led their entire news bulletin last night at six o'clock. With the bump. With the bump, 

[00:43:22] Wayne: yeah. Yeah. Well, 

[00:43:24] Tony: it was stupid. Of course it's stupid, but Jimmy Webster will be public enemy number one until Thursday night until the games have started. I feel for him because I would like to think the Players Association or GBS or Beyond Blue would reach out and say, yes, the act wasn't great, but now we want to know how he's feeling.

[00:43:42] Tony: Yes, Josh Simpkin was publicly, um, not well, but got up and stayed on the bench and was walking around coherent. How's, um, Jimmy Webster feeling today? 

[00:43:52] Wayne: At least he should feel embarrassed and You know, the fact that he's made a mistake and, and obviously Simpkin [00:44:00] now misses a week and can't play, or potentially longer and it, and it disrupts his start to the season because of an act that, uh, went out with Abba.

[00:44:09] Wayne: Well, Tony, it's been a big, uh, first show. We've spoken a lot of rhubarb and had a lot of things that happened over the summer, but that's generally what, uh, what you do. And we like, we'll get into the tips. Next week and we'll give our tips on the footy But I just want to say that next week there won't be our regular show right, but we've got a guest and it's a guest very controversial In and around what's going on in the biggest topic in AFL footy at the moment and we've touched on it today and that is Around concussion.

[00:44:40] Wayne: I like it. So there's a lot to Digest in and around that, but I'm on an assignment next week. So we, we won't have this regular show, but we will put that interview, which we'll be doing later in the next couple of days. We'll put that interview up. 

[00:44:57] Tony: What's the assignment? Hey, what's 

[00:44:59] Wayne: the [00:45:00] assignment? Well, It's not the jungle.

[00:45:03] Wayne: So if it was a jungle, you'd expect to be in there, but I have now I'm away for the whole week. So we'll, we'll do that the following week. So this show will be up in two weeks, but we will put something up next week, which is an interview. So I look forward to chatting you, chatting to you in a couple of weeks, uh, in this environment and, um, have a, uh, have a good week.

[00:45:24] Wayne: Good luck on the assignment.