Season 1 - EP #34 - Surprise GF prediction, Ron Barassi tribute, Blues hype and Royal Melbourne Show

Season 1 - EP #34 - Surprise GF prediction, Ron Barassi tribute, Blues hype and Royal Melbourne Show

Join Wayne Carey and Ayrton Woolley as they jump into episode 34 of the show.

Hear Wayne & Ayrton talk about the upcoming preliminary finals, who's going to win and a special tribute to the late Ron Barassi

Ayrton and Wayne also discuss Toby Greene and the GWS Giants, how Duck now rates Adam Kingsley as the best coach of the year and how Carlton might be cooked.

Chapter markers:

0:00 - 2:40 - Duck and Wool are in Carlton for the show, how good was Carlton’s win.  Loudest crowd ever.

2:40 - 5:15 -  Do the Blues bring Harry McKay back in or not risk it?

5:15 - 8:00 - How will Carlton deal with their injury issues and what next for Port Adelaide and Ken Hinkley. Plus GWS at their best, can beat anyone!

8:00 - 9:05 -  Kinglsey coach of the year, Duck admits he was wrong!

9:05 - 12:05 - Duck on Simon Goodwin and Ken Hinkley’s years and underachieving

12:05 - 16:42 - Duck on the great, late Ronald Dale Barassi AM RIP and why the premiership cup should be named after him.  Duck on Ron Barassi being the Godfather of the best coaches.  Tribute to Kevin 'Cowboy' Neale.

16:42 - 19:00 - Duck on Collingwood selection decisions and Taylor Adams running into John Noble at training.

19:00 - 21:35 - Who wins the preliminary finals this week with Duck. Brisbane and GWS for him.  All inter-state Grand Final.

21:35 - 22:45 - Ayrton on how he can’t stand his Collingwood supporter mates.

22:45 - 24:05 - AFLW on skills and quality improving, yet it’s so sad that no-one is watching.

24:05 - 26:30 - The Royal Melbourne show is back and Duck reminisces on taking Ella and Charlotte when they were younger.  He also talks about his favourite Show Bag!

26:30 - 27:45 - Listener feedback and Duck being happy Brayden Maynard is playing.  Will Maynard play on Toby Greene.

27:45 - 33:20 - Listener questions, owning the possum. Harry Shekel and compensation picks.

33:20 - 35:40 - Duck on his gripe with AFL ticketing.

35:40 - end - Duck on Ayrton not deserving a footy trip.

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Ayrton: Well, we're back again for another episode of the truth hurts ducks and different surrounds talk us through what's been going on What are we 

[00:00:06] Wayne: what are we doing here? What are we doing? We're actually in Carlton for all those and that's why the studio is a little bit different We wanted to get amongst the crowd get amongst the people and right now Take Collingwood aside because if we know that they've been, you know playing finals for a long time But the Blues got in they've won their first two finals.

[00:00:25] Wayne: They're about to go into a prelim So, I got here last night. I went to the University Cafe last night, 257 Ligon Street, literally around the corner from where we are now, and oh boy, the reason why, because I knew that it would be bubbling down here, I've gone all the way, no I'm only joking, you're the only.

[00:00:41] Wayne: You've been walking 

[00:00:42] Ayrton: the streets and talking to the people, 

[00:00:44] Wayne: is that what you're saying? I have been, I probably should have done a street talk, it would have gone very well. So, I had some, uh, Pena y Matriciana last night from the, uh, from the boys at the University Cafe, John and Paul, absolutely delicious.

[00:00:57] Wayne: And then I said, uh, then I said to the [00:01:00] boys, Brandon and Ben, I said, let's set up tomorrow in Ligon Street. And I'll go and walk the streets, just to get that feel. And by the way, the sign wasn't working until about five minutes ago, so we're, uh, it was a big kerfuffle. But isn't it, isn't it fantastic that Carlton are in the finals and the excitement that they've caused?

[00:01:21] Wayne: I had some people go to the footy the other night. I didn't go to the game, but obviously watched it. And they said they've never heard a crowd louder than when the Blues won that game. And they're talking Collingwood, um, you know, Essendon, all the big teams, just that roar when they won, they said it was incredible.

[00:01:41] Wayne: I can, I can 

[00:01:41] Ayrton: believe that it was a crazy, crazy finish that final minute against Melbourne. What I do wonder though, when you're walking these streets is how popular you are given that you, you wrote, you wrote the blues off about 10 weeks ago. 

[00:01:54] Wayne: Oh, it's, it's funny you say that because they've, they, a lot of people listen to the podcast and have been [00:02:00] listening and they, and they, they know what I said, I picked them for the eight.

[00:02:03] Wayne: I had them in the top four. Guess where they are. Top four. So I'm right, but I was wrong to write them off as I did, um, was completely wrong in a prelim against Brisbane in Brisbane. Can, can they win 

[00:02:16] Ayrton: it? Can they win that game now? Or, or have they? No, 

[00:02:19] Wayne: of course they can win it. Of course they will. They get Martin back who, uh, missed the one week.

[00:02:24] Wayne: The big question mark over this game is Harry Mackay. Do they bring Harry Mackay back in after getting knocked out by a feather? Do they bring him back in? Because let's be honest, if he gets touched again, if he just gets a little knock early in the game and he goes off, their form without him has been better.

[00:02:43] Wayne: He was out of form when he came back in for the three weeks. He kicked the one goal in three weeks. I know that because I had him in two multis. I just don't think, I just don't see, de Kooning is just starting to find his feet and have an important role. So, [00:03:00] for me, I'm not bringing in a player that is not confident going into a preliminary final.

[00:03:06] Wayne: That's, that's just me. It's going to be fascinating, Martin definitely comes back in, X Factor, but for me I'm leaving Harry Mackay 

[00:03:14] Ayrton: out. The counter argument will be around Charlie Curnow and, and, I, I tend to agree at times that Harry's been a little bit frustrating, but it felt like Charlie was pretty, like he played his role, he brought the ball to ground, but he was more well held maybe than if he had the support act alongside him.

[00:03:30] Ayrton: Would that be fair? Their form line 

[00:03:31] Wayne: was way better without Harry. Don't get me wrong for all those people that go, well Harry, you know, he's a Coleman medalist. He's a very good player when he is confident. Unfortunately, he is not confident right now. Now he's been knocked out by a feather. Right? So, he's got concussion, sorry, not knocked out, he's got concussion like through a very, very sort of softish hit, which means he's got some, something going on.

[00:03:57] Wayne: Now imagine if he gets a softish hit at the start of [00:04:00] this game. You just can't take that risk with him, I don't think. Now if he's, if he's in super form, then of course you, okay, you're, you're excused for doing it. Neither for me. It's too big a risk. Both ways, form and the, uh, I guess the chance of him not getting through the whole 

[00:04:18] Ayrton: game.

[00:04:19] Ayrton: So in terms of his impact on Charlie and what it means for Charlie in taking away a defender from him, you're not worried about that in the way the Blues are setting up in their forward line? No. You think Deceuninck did 

[00:04:28] Wayne: it? I think the speed, yeah, Deceuninck, uh, good enough job for me. And the speed of which then they put more pressure on, um, I, Anyway.

[00:04:36] Wayne: Fascinating. Watch. I'm sure that, uh, I'm sure that these are all the questions that everyone's asking. I know a lot of the blues walking the streets here this morning. Um, that's what everyone's asking me and they're not saying, oh, you got it wrong through this or that. They're, they're act, they're all over me like a cheap suit.

[00:04:53] Wayne: you know, all about cheap suits. Carlton 

[00:04:55] Ayrton: has some other concerns and it feels like they're gonna deal with them 'cause they have been [00:05:00] dealing with them. Blake Akers has got a collarbone issue. Sam Dockerty. Dislocated his shoulder injuries and finals and where do you sit on that because it's the time of year you take more risks Well, you've just 

[00:05:11] Wayne: got to know The medical staff and the coaching staff are the only ones that know what makes up each individual and what I mean by that And we've spoken about this over the years And that is, some players can play with injury, some players can't.

[00:05:25] Wayne: Now there might be a player that they don't know yet because they haven't been tested in that area. So there, the club knows better than us. So for instance, on the weekend, so we'll get back to the Blues, so there's a bit going on. But on the weekend we had a team, Port Adelaide, Ken Hinckley, out in straight sets.

[00:05:42] Wayne: And a few players came back in, Dixon and a few others came back in that weren't 100 percent fit. It didn't work out for them, they lose. I thought Ken Hinckley handled himself really well in the press conference. They were never really a chance in saying that. If they kicked straight, they gave themselves a little bit of a [00:06:00] sniff.

[00:06:00] Wayne: But GWS were unbelievably good. Unbelievably good. Um, so, they took the risk on those players and Ken Hinckley made a very good point. And he said, if we hadn't have played those players, we would have got beaten by a hell of a lot more. So they were a better option, even though they were not 100 percent fit than the, than the other choices that they had to go to.

[00:06:21] Wayne: So they, they went in, they limped into that. On the flip side, um, GWS, if they play like that, they can beat anyone. Yeah, they've been super impressive, haven't they? What a turnaround. I, I just love the way they play their footy. They looked far quicker than Port Adelaide, who were not slow, and made their quick players look slow.

[00:06:43] Wayne: It was just, it was like they had four or five extra players on the ground. I was blown away by that game. I didn't see... I didn't watch them as closely the week before against St Kilda, but I was ultra impressed with how they went about it. Obviously Hogan on fire, Toby Green, the [00:07:00] captain, got them off to a great start, Canelio.

[00:07:02] Ayrton: He's back at the form that he had three years ago when he was one of the best players in the comp, hasn't he? He's been huge. 

[00:07:08] Wayne: I mean, they are, their defence is just incredibly strong. Uh, they've got all the attributes and, and, and their speed and the way they move the footy, it's going to be a cracking game.

[00:07:19] Wayne: While we're on that, I've gotta admit, I, I might've got something else wrong this year, so I've not, another thing, this might be a first, not another thing. This might be a first may admit I'm wrong. Two or three times in a year and that is, I think Kingsley is the coach of the year now. Oh, you're with 

[00:07:35] Ayrton: me now.

[00:07:35] Ayrton: You're with 

[00:07:36] Wayne: me now. You didn't say that. I did say that. You did not. You haven't given me credit for it. Kingsley is the coach of the year. Ross is on the podium. I went a little bit early. So, you know, they never look like playing finals footy. And to get on the run that they have and to now be in a preliminary final and a big chance to win that preliminary final.

[00:07:56] Wayne: Unbelievable effort. So Kingsley coach of the [00:08:00] year for all of those people that are saying, Oh, what if McRae? Well, people expected Collingwood to be there. People expected Carlton to be there. So for all those people that said, well, what if Voss? I had Carlton at the start of the year in my top four. So the expectations are what, where they are.

[00:08:18] Wayne: for a lot of us, right? Now, some others mightn't have had them there. I did on the back of the list that they had and the improvement that they had over the last three or four years. So, no to Voss, yes to Kingsley. Um, fascinating, fascinating stuff. Now you touched on 

[00:08:33] Ayrton: Port Adelaide. Uh, Melbourne also went out in straight sets.

[00:08:36] Ayrton: I want to talk about both of those teams because they've made decisions on their coaches. Uh, and I know Simon Goodwin's a mate of yours and you, you're probably going to defend him. Are you comfortable with Port Adelaide's decision to sign Ken when they did, 

[00:08:50] Wayne: um, a few months ago? I'm not going to defend him because they don't need defending.

[00:08:55] Wayne: If you get yourself in to the finals and give yourself a crack at a [00:09:00] preliminary final, now I think they're both, both teams have fallen short. I think they both should be in prelims. Obviously they finished in the top four, so they'll be disappointed. Both have reasons and some of those reasons about being healthy, I don't think either side were, was all that healthy.

[00:09:17] Wayne: Would you agree? Gorm went in with an injury, obviously had some other key players out. Uh, their, their movement into their four line, clearly a weakness, could have won both games. You know, they, I think they played better than Collingwood the week before and I think they, they, they could have won that game on the weekend.

[00:09:33] Wayne: No doubt about that. Uh, but at the end of the day, they didn't. So they've got something to work on. And what they've got to work on is that connection, going inside forward 50 and then converting. So they've got to find themselves a way. Imagine if they had Jesse Hogan. There's a 

[00:09:47] Ayrton: few mates suggested that during the game too.

[00:09:50] Ayrton: I mean, obviously there was reasons that Jesse left Melbourne. Their forward line, obviously, Van Rooyen was suspended. Harrison Petty, who's played a role at times, he was 

[00:09:58] Wayne: injured. McDonald [00:10:00] couldn't get into the game. Ben Brown, Ben Brown. Where's Ben Brown gone? Back to 

[00:10:05] Ayrton: Tassie? I just, I don't think they rate him anymore, to be honest.

[00:10:07] Ayrton: I think he's just about done. But should they, um, be braver? with the football Melbourne. They're known as a defence first team and they set up from the back really, really well. But can they be braver with their ball movement? 

[00:10:19] Wayne: Well, you say that, but they, they gave themselves, look at the opportunities that they've given themselves of simple facts.

[00:10:24] Wayne: They just haven't converted correctly. So, for all those people that talk about their movement and they could be braver and just like you did then, and, and you might be right, there's an element of that, which then gives them a better look and they can use it a bit better, um, but at the end of the day, they have given themselves enough shots on goal to win the games that they've lost.

[00:10:44] Wayne: Unfortunately, all year. They've lost games because of that, and then it's come to their two finals and they've done the same thing. Uh, Ken Hinckley was right in his press conferences, uh, press conference, sorry, saying that that 13 week period where they were in super form, they haven't [00:11:00] been anywhere near that for about seven weeks.

[00:11:02] Wayne: And once again, that came back to, to bite them on the weekend. They've got a young midfield that got, I think, beaten really, really, uh, really well by GWS. And as I said, they, they were just, they were just, out hunted by GWS Port Adelaide. So they've got some work to do. But I don't disagree that they, they shouldn't have signed Ken Hinckley just because they lose that final.

[00:11:25] Ayrton: No, I guess the question mark around Ken has been that Port Adelaide's been in this position many times now and they, they probably haven't delivered on some of the talent or the expectation that they've had when you've got a guy who's been coached for what, 11 years and hasn't, hasn't made a grand final.

[00:11:40] Ayrton: Um, so I guess That'll be the, that'll be the talking point in, in South Australia anyway. 

[00:11:46] Wayne: Um, so we've got our, we've got our grand final, we've got our preliminary finals now, right? So we've got that. We've spoken a little bit about the, the teams that are in the prelims and those who have lost and we'll get back to it.

[00:11:56] Wayne: But I do want to touch on a man that I said [00:12:00] five years ago, might be longer ago, right? The great Ron Barassi, who passed away a couple of days ago, um, who I think is, the biggest name in our game. Well, certainly in my point of view, he is. And I know, um, a lot of other people feel the same. And I actually said five years ago, and I got, his family reached out to me and said, thank you very much for bringing this up.

[00:12:25] Wayne: But the Premiership Cup should be named the Ron Barassi Cup. I and I and I, I don't know if you remember, you might've even, uh, helped me, uh, write the article. may 

[00:12:35] Ayrton: be, I do remember you saying it again about a month ago, and I, about a month ago I said it and I've, I've read with interest. Some others have, have jumped on When we were talking about this pre-show, you, you said, why don't you pump me up and you've just gone and pumped yourself up there,

[00:12:47] Ayrton: Well, 

[00:12:47] Wayne: sometimes if, if, uh, you're a bit slow on the take, I'll actually take it up myself. I was gonna get there, but you just, you were that keen to get you back. Keen to get it out. Well, I do love when other people then come out and say, well, It should be. Don't [00:13:00] get me wrong, I don't care. The more people that come out and say that it should be the Ron Barassi Cup, the better.

[00:13:05] Wayne: So, um, you know, condolences to, to, uh, you know, Ron Barassi's family and everyone, uh, concerned because he was, he really is just, you, you look at his, uh, you, whenever you saw Ron Barassi, you just, you, you stood in awe. He had presence like, uh, few have, and what he did in the game, six, uh, six premierships as a player, he was captain of the Melbourne Footy Club, he went to Carlton, won two flags there, came to North Melbourne, won their inaugural, uh, premiership in 1975, took them to multiple grand finals, ultimately two winning ones.

[00:13:40] Wayne: So, You know just what a legend and then went up to Sydney when they needed some relevance up there So, you know took took the job up there for that reason alone for the AFL You know just a just an unbelievable person A very humble person. 

[00:13:56] Ayrton: Yeah. So what was he, what, what was Ron like? Uh, because you, you would've met him I'm sure a 

[00:13:59] Wayne: number of [00:14:00] times.

[00:14:00] Wayne: So what? Oh, yeah. He, well, he, he did, he, well, he had this, uh, he had this scariness about him as well. And when you see all that vision of when he coached Carlton and North Melbourne, there would've been a few factor there. Absolutely. Well, the players were petrified, like some of the things he said to players, Um, I heard Sam Kekovic on the weekend saying if work, work safe for Victoria around when Baras was giving them a spray, you would, uh, he might be in a little bit of trouble these days.

[00:14:27] Wayne: But about the flares he 

[00:14:28] Ayrton: wore in that, uh, 

[00:14:29] Wayne: in that grand final and the, that kid he was a, have a look. He just was just a smart, good looking man, you know, like I said, had, had the fear factor, had charisma, but was humble and all, all in one. So when he was away from that cauldron of coaching and playing. He, he, he was just a different person in terms of the way he presented.

[00:14:50] Wayne: But, I'd look at him as the Godfart. Now, now, Lee Matthews is the era after, after Ron Barassi. But I look at Ron Barassi and I'd [00:15:00] just remember he coached guys like Malcolm Blight, Dennis Pagan, who went on to be, uh, Premiership coaches. He then, and, and there's others. And then, like, so... Then off the back of those guys, you've got guys like Clarkson, Simpson, Longmire, then off the back of that you guys like Hardwick.

[00:15:18] Wayne: The list just goes on and on and on and on and on. Um, and Ron Barassi was the, I guess, like I said, the grandfather of all of those coaches. If you look through the history, he's just a, he's just a legend. Um, and I, I think that honor should be bestowed upon him. I really do. Yep. I think 

[00:15:36] Ayrton: that's absolutely 

[00:15:37] Wayne: fair.

[00:15:38] Wayne: It'd be remiss of us not to mention Cowboy Neil as well. Yes. Who, uh, was a, was a legend of the St. Kilda footy club and a part of, kicked five goals in that grand final, the only grand final St. Kilda have ever won. And he was a massive part of that and a, and just a, a, a massive, uh, personality. Big character.

[00:15:56] Wayne: Yeah. Big 

[00:15:56] Ayrton: character. Great story. Great storyteller. 

[00:15:58] Wayne: Yeah. Eugene, I didn't know Cowboy [00:16:00] as well, but, um, I, uh, I just get the feeling you'd walk a little bit taller if you're out on the field with Cowboy Neil, and yeah, I agree. So, uh, yeah, condolences to Cowboy's family, uh, as well. But, uh, you know, two massive icons of our game passing away within a day of one another.

[00:16:18] Wayne: It's, uh, very sad. 

[00:16:20] Ayrton: Before we move on from football, I want to ask you about Collingwood. Um, so we touched briefly on the other clubs that are in the finals race there. They've got, Collingwood's got some decisions to make. Nick Dacos? Oh, that's not a 

[00:16:33] Wayne: decision. Okay, so he's in? Oh, it's not a puzzle. 

[00:16:36] Ayrton: Well, he's...

[00:16:38] Ayrton: Yes. He's a good player. What I saw at training was not unbelievable. Okay, next question, Taylor Adams. Did you go and watch him live? No, I saw the vision. I saw the vision. Uh, Taylor Adams, they're Collingwood Adams. Believe, 

[00:16:50] Wayne: believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. Now, come on, 

[00:16:53] Ayrton: you don't need to be that cynical about the news, Wayne.

[00:16:56] Ayrton: Um, Taylor Adams has done a hamstring. They haven't ruled him [00:17:00] out of the grand final. You can't play him in a granny though if they make it. It would be 10 days. Well, it just depends 

[00:17:04] Wayne: on, on what the scan says. And he's hit once again, his history. You know who he ran into, if you have to believe the vision, he ran into John Noble 

[00:17:14] Ayrton: at training.

[00:17:14] Ayrton: Oh, you reckon John was, you reckon John 

[00:17:17] Wayne: Noble's... Well, they ran into one another, that's how he did his AMI. Maybe John Noble... I don't think he deliberately tried to do it, by the way, I'm just saying, that's, that was the, uh... That looked like when he, when he heard it and so it was from a collision. So this, so he wasn't running, I don't think, a top pace when he did it and he wasn't, um, you know, kicking the footy.

[00:17:35] Wayne: So for me, it might be on the real lower end, which is why I think he still could be a chance if they were to get through to the grand final. And that's a big if now, GWS are hardened. Colleen would have played one game now in three weeks, remember, and, and GWS would be feeling chock a block. Full of confidence.

[00:17:56] Wayne: Hollywood would 

[00:17:57] Ayrton: have much preferred to play Port Adelaide, I reckon. [00:18:00] Like, GWS now is just about the form team of the entire 

[00:18:03] Wayne: comp. You know what they're doing? They're doing a Bulldogs. Yeah. They're doing a 2016 Bulldogs. They are flying. They have players that are just running on top of the, and players, Bedford and these guys that are, that are, you know, footy.

[00:18:17] Wayne: Just like the Bulldogs had in 16. Never saw it again from some of those Bulldogs. Oh, I, GWS are the informed team for me. 

[00:18:26] Ayrton: So this will, uh, this will go live before the games in the weekend. Our listeners won't have another chance to hear from you. Who do you think is going to win these two preliminary finals 

[00:18:36] Wayne: then?

[00:18:37] Wayne: I think Brisbane, uh, in Brisbane, 5 15 game, and, gee, if it had been a little bit earlier, it would have gone to their advantage even more. What, in the daytime you mean, the warm? Yeah, they would, they would want it, I think they would want it probably more in the daytime. Um, anyway, 5 15, you just, Well, they've run undefeated at the Gabba this [00:19:00] year, so you can't back against them.

[00:19:01] Wayne: Their firepower, they've got more firepower than what, um, Carlton have got. Um, given that, as I said, Mackay, who we don't know whether he's going to play. They get Martin back, Curnow, a few of those other nippy little, uh, forwards. There's, there's Serial, uh, Owies, they've got guys like that. Well, he could, he could have a Serial named after him, Owies.

[00:19:23] Ayrton: I was just trying to work out what that actually meant, but, 

[00:19:25] Wayne: um. So, so who do I pick? So I think Brisbane. Yep. I think Brisbane. Sorry. 

[00:19:33] Ayrton: There's another game between Collingwood 

[00:19:35] Wayne: and GWS Yeah, I was about to say I said, sorry. Okay. Yep. I What you I think this could be an upset 

[00:19:43] Ayrton: Tipping the Giants. Well, they did beat him in a prelim a couple 

[00:19:46] Wayne: years ago and they were the underdog in that as well Imagine so all those people out there That have gone early with their tickets, and it could be, imagine if it was Carlton Colling.

[00:19:58] Wayne: Huge. This, this. It could be the [00:20:00] complete, it could be. The complete opposite. So we're talking the biggest, by the way, big grand final, no matter what. But there'll be a few in Melbourne trying to get rid of their tickets if it's Brisbane and GWS. Good on Brisbane. And if they are, I'll, I'll, I'll purchase them because I reckon that'd be an unbelievable grand final as well.

[00:20:16] Wayne: Great. If you make the grand finals. Yeah, it would. 

[00:20:18] Ayrton: But it's, it wouldn't, it wouldn't hold like good on them if 

[00:20:21] Wayne: they make it. There you go. So I'm tipping a favourite. Yep. And then I'm tipping an underdog. Sorry. You're not just a favourite. And I can't, you know what? And I can't wait until this time next week if Collingwood get up to, to get the, the, The barrage of attack that I will get if they do get up, including all the Collingwood people that I know out there, Frenchy and everyone else at Barrick for the pies, and Rombo, and Vinnie, and all of these blokes are all pies, and they're banking, you know what, they're actually not.

[00:20:51] Wayne: They're not only barricading for the pies, they're banking on the pies. Oh, they're invested. Well, you think about all of the [00:21:00] commercial dollars that go into it at the MCJ and all the boxes and everything else and what they sell for if Collingwood are in, in comparison to what they'll sell for if, They're not in.

[00:21:09] Wayne: They're not in. So there's a lot of, uh, barricking and banking this 

[00:21:13] Ayrton: weekend. What I will say about this Collingwood playing group, and this came up last year, that they are a more likeable playing group for a Collingwood team, but the thing that stops me wanting to Collingwood to win is still their supporters.

[00:21:26] Ayrton: You just, 

[00:21:27] Wayne: I've got a lot of Collingwood 

[00:21:30] Ayrton: mates, I've got a lot of Collingwood mates. I just can't, 

[00:21:33] Wayne: I can't. I love the Collingwood supporters. I think, you know, no, generally, it's just the passion and enthusiasm that they bring. I'm talking about the ones I know. They've taken, they've taken them to the edge of their seat.

[00:21:43] Wayne: Now remember what I said during the year. I said to all of my Collingwood supporters, I said, yep, you're okay, you're going to finish on top, all of that. I said, unfortunately, those close losses, close wins, sorry, might come back to bite you. They lost a prelim last year by a point or [00:22:00] two, was it? Again Sydney was by a little bit.

[00:22:03] Wayne: Yep. And oh, imagine if they lost by less than a kick again in a pre lim. But anyway, so my tip is Brisbane GWS Grand Final. Gee whiz. You heard it here first. Did 

[00:22:16] Ayrton: you catch much of the AFLW on the weekend? 

[00:22:18] Wayne: Isn't it, you know what, it's a real shame because I, I did to answer your question. And there, the AFL women's competition has improved immensely.

[00:22:31] Wayne: It really has. And some of the skills, you look at some of the highlights, some of the marks, some of the goals, the distance in their kicking, just all round skills, the scoring is a lot higher. So there's so much more, um, to love about the AFL women's game now. And I, and I have been across it. What's really sad is that no one's what I don't think no one's watching.

[00:22:54] Wayne: Terrible, terrible scheduling to have it on during this time. While you've, while [00:23:00] you've got, so 

[00:23:00] Ayrton: they've shifted competition. They've shifted it from the summer to this time to try and align it a little bit more. It's, it's 

[00:23:05] Wayne: horrendous. Okay. You don't like it. It's horrendous because it's just been insignificant and I don't think enough people are watching it.

[00:23:11] Wayne: And like I said, they should be because of the skills that they've got on show. So really, really poor. I know there's only a couple of weeks to go and then they'll have a bit of a cl clear air, but, um, it's a shame. So when would 

[00:23:23] Ayrton: you start, you'd 

[00:23:24] Wayne: wait till the end of the afl I'd wait till the af end of the A F L.

[00:23:27] Wayne: Uh. men's season. No doubt. So, but in saying that, well done because no doubt the game has definitely changed. While we're on grand final week, and I get a little bit excited about grand final for a lot of reasons, and that's obviously the game. Um, but the Royal Melbourne show is COVID. You've got a bit of Royal Melbourne show, a bit of show baggage, you're full of, you know what?

[00:23:54] Wayne: Um, it's, it's back. I don't know whether you like it, but I, I've 

[00:23:59] Ayrton: never been [00:24:00] to the Royal Melbourne show, there you go. When Ella 

[00:24:01] Wayne: was, when Ella, so Ella's, uh, 17, turning 18, I'd always taken her to the show, used to take her and a couple of, uh, uh, friends and, and get around there. I remember taking Charlotte when she was, uh, little.

[00:24:14] Wayne: Carter obviously hasn't gone yet, so I'll take him along. Um, I love getting around there and, you know, looking at all the different rides that they've got. You know, you shoot a few ducks. Um, you know, you shoot a few hoops. Like all the different little things you've got. You go down the slide. The kids don't go on the bigger, go on the ghost train.

[00:24:34] Wayne: You'd be petrified of the ghost train. Oh yeah, no, absolutely. But I love, I do, I really like the Royal Melbourne Show. And then to top it all off. Show bags. You've got three kids, you go and buy some show bags. What do you go for? You've got the snakes alive, you've got the, the Barbie one will be a big seller this year I assume.

[00:24:50] Wayne: There'll be lots of Barbie, you know, stuff. Um, but I, you know, you've got your Freddo frogs, you've got your Redskins, you've got all the different, so you, you end up [00:25:00] buying about 30 show bags for the three kids. They're a bit expensive now, aren't they? What are they worth? That's what I was about to say.

[00:25:05] Wayne: You take three kids. You're spending a thousand. A thousand dollars at the show? That's what you would spend for three or four kids. No, look, the rides are about twenty bucks a pop. When I was a kid, they were about two bucks. To go on one ride? Yeah, about twenty bucks a pop. Well, the bigger rides. Yeah, okay.

[00:25:20] Wayne: Um, so, but I'm gonna go. I'm not sure whether I'll go on the opening day, which is, uh, this Thursday, or I have got a bit of a spare day in, uh, grand final week, so I might try to squeeze it in there, but it all depends. You don't want it on the real busy. You know, real, real busy because it gets absolutely chockers.

[00:25:41] Wayne: Has Carter been before? No. Okay. No, so looking forward to taking him to the Royal Melbourne show. I, it is a big thing and the reason why I bring it up, because I think everyone should support it. We haven't had it for a little while. I don't know, did we have it last year? I'm not sure. Anyway. I'm not sure.

[00:25:57] Wayne: I didn't go, well I, no I didn't go [00:26:00] last year and then we had COVID years before that. I definitely went the year before COVID. So looking forward to going to the, uh, to the show again. Now 

[00:26:09] Ayrton: we've got, uh, a whole lot of feedback from the last, uh, we had two episodes last week. Uh, we'd spoke at length about, uh, Braden Maynard and that situation.

[00:26:19] Ayrton: Were you happy in the end with how that went? Um. 

[00:26:23] Wayne: I'm, I'm happy that he's playing, 

[00:26:24] Ayrton: yeah. Yep. So. A lot of the feedback actually agreed with you. Even some Collingwood supporters. Um, Duck, I agree with you. Maynard should get a week. And I'm a Pies fan. Fairness and consistency. The AFL rules and decisions is all us fans ask for and that was a big point of yours last week.

[00:26:42] Ayrton: So obviously a week was not possible as part of the, the matrix, but you felt that was, that was fair. Um, and it seems quite a few of our listeners agreed, but as you said, in the end, happy that he, happy that he 

[00:26:54] Wayne: got off. They'll make, they'll, they'll invariably make some sort of change for next year. in and [00:27:00] around this exact thing.

[00:27:01] Wayne: Um, but I'm glad that, uh, he's playing in the Grenny. You want the best players playing and he, and he will, what a match up that'll be. Maynard on Toby Green. Yeah. Maybe neither will play in the grand final. Those two are playing on one another. They'll be winding each other up. That'll be a fiery little, uh, encounter, that 

[00:27:20] Ayrton: one.

[00:27:21] Ayrton: I just love watching Toby. He's winding someone else up again on the weekend. You just wonder sometimes what he's saying out on the ground. That was the Ruckman. Yeah, what 

[00:27:27] Wayne: do you, I wonder what he said. He doesn't pick on someone his own size. All he goes to the bigger boys. 

[00:27:33] Ayrton: Righto, just let me keep going down in our questions here.

[00:27:37] Ayrton: I normally have them written down but I'm a 

[00:27:39] Wayne: little bit disorganised. You are dusty again. No. Three weeks in a row. Yeah, I 

[00:27:42] Ayrton: know, I've let myself down. You've been dusty. I'm not a Sunday specialist but for whatever reason all my social events have been on Sundays. There Yarraville.

[00:27:56] Ayrton: Uh, two of my teammates, uh, sort of dedicated their [00:28:00] kits to, to you and I, one dressed up as you. Um, he was, he was actually as a duck, um, and, uh, another guy was wearing a bit of truth hurts. Um. Oh, really? Yeah. And it said he's Anton. 

[00:28:15] Wayne: Oh, I like it. So, um, making waves 

[00:28:18] Ayrton: down at Yarraville. Duck so, um, yeah, I don't know if you would have been too impressed with the duck outfit itself But it was it was dedicated to you and there are some big North Melbourne fans down there actually Possums we spoke about last week.

[00:28:33] Ayrton: This is from skills got on the possum straightaway juddy went From hair to bald straight away, because you could tell he was receding, just went bang and won another Brown Low. 

[00:28:41] Wayne: Got some feedback. Barry Ablett Jr. did the same. He 

[00:28:44] Ayrton: absolutely did. Got some feedback on my own hair, actually. Uh, this is from Rumpa.

[00:28:50] Ayrton: This name's too long, I'm not reading it out. In the words of men's self improvement author and content creator Rich Cooper, shave that shit off, bald is the way to go. Grow that beard and get to the [00:29:00] gym, no hats indoors.

[00:29:04] Wayne: Oh, I like him. Read 

[00:29:08] Ayrton: his name out. That's too long, I can't read it. I can't read it. Um... There was one other question that I really wanted to ask you. It was about, it was about draft picks actually. Let me just scroll through our long list of questions here. It was about priority picks. One of our listeners suggested that intervention should be sooner and greater.

[00:29:28] Ayrton: So I guess this is a question around North Melbourne at the moment. So dear Wayne and Anton. If you could look at this question my brother has raised, I know that priority picks have been associated with tanking in the past, but I think this prolonged having teams at the bottom, and it's not good for the competition.

[00:29:43] Ayrton: Intervention should be sooner and greater. Uh, so... I'll tell 

[00:29:47] Wayne: you what, I've needed intervention sooner rather than later a couple of times. Um, no, no, I think there's got to be sustained failure. for it to, for you to get that. [00:30:00] There's already an uproar about, you know, getting an advantage. Melbourne got it.

[00:30:04] Wayne: Heaps of teams that have finished down the bottom have got it. So I'm not sure why there's an uproar just while we're on North Melbourne. And I think they will get some sort of priority somehow, how that works and what pick it is. And you know, whether they use, uh, lose Ben Mackay and all of that sort of stuff that'll come out in the wash.

[00:30:22] Wayne: Harry Sheazle in his first year of footy won the North Melbourne Best and Fairest. So, um, huge effort. But? Huge effort. Why are you smiling? Well, no, it is, but it does show you, it does show you the improvement that this club has to make. Yes. That, you know, your first year player wins the BNF. Taron Thomas.

[00:30:43] Wayne: Yes, crazy stat. Did not play until round 12. Yep. And came sixth. This is... Like, how does that happen? That once again tells you how, you know, how, uh, I guess, poor a season they had. [00:31:00] And, uh, the big fella Larkey came runner up. Congratulations to him. Amazing effort to kick 70 plus goals. You know, in a side that struggled like they did.

[00:31:09] Wayne: So, you know, and, and, for that to be runner up to a first year player I was surprised by. I thought big Larkey might, uh, might take it out given... Given, uh, the position he plays and he's not just running off halfback flank. 

[00:31:22] Ayrton: Well, just on Harry Sheisal and his positioning, so Nick Dacos made a part transition to the midfield this year and, um, maybe similar stats in, uh, Harry Sheisal in terms of what he's done off halfback.

[00:31:34] Ayrton: Did play some mid time. He was a half forward or a forward pocket even in his junior days. Where would you like to see him play his footy 

[00:31:40] Wayne: next year? Oh, invariably, the way he uses the footy, you'd want to see him centre forward. Because he's just such a beautiful user. So you, you know, you want him going, you want him kicking the ball inside 50.

[00:31:51] Wayne: Because he's, he, yeah, just uses it so well. So for me, but well, well done. Uh, great effort. But a surprising top 10 for me. You know, when you [00:32:00] look through the, um, you know, the players that made the top 10 and you look through the years that they had. Room for improvement. Big room for improvement by the Kangas.

[00:32:09] Wayne: No question about that. Um, before we do tune off, I clicked on, remembering it's Monday right now, and the AFL ticketing system, when you've played over 300. Now, for all those that say, oh, you never played 300, you played 272. Well, I actually, I'm in the 300 club, I'm an AFL live member. I, I clicked on to the, uh, Ticketing system from the AFL at nine o'clock on the dot and it said in that game It said and so the AFL award winners 9 a.

[00:32:41] Wayne: m. On the dot right for the Brisbane Carlton game and it said They the ticketing prices haven't been set yet. So you can't you couldn't get the ticket So 9 a. m. for all tickets exhausted. So you've been dotted you reckon? Well[00:33:00] 

[00:33:02] Ayrton: How are they still setting the prices when you don't pay for your tickets, do you? 

[00:33:07] Wayne: No, you don't pay from when you're an AFL life member legend. Um, I just said, I'm joking. But, of course, no, so I'm an AFL life member. Yes. Because of that. So the 300, by the way, the 300 games, for those that don't know, there's state games, Australia games, and pre season games all added up.

[00:33:27] Wayne: So that's why I'm in that, um, position. So I am in the 300 club. But the fact that I get a, I get an email back saying. Um, several hundred seats were allocated to award winners tickets exhausted by 906. So I got on at 901, I got on at nine o'clock, not even 901. And their system was shit ass, right? So I couldn't obviously get the tickets.

[00:33:54] Wayne: So they said, you've now been placed on a waiting list. Well, [00:34:00] that is crap. So for all the other award winners that have missed out, I bet you Lee Matthews 

[00:34:05] Ayrton: got tickets. He 

[00:34:06] Wayne: would've got tickets. Well. Oh, you would, well, well, if you didn't log in at, uh, nine oh, before nine oh six. Sometimes 

[00:34:12] Ayrton: you got to press refresh, mate.

[00:34:13] Ayrton: Doesn't always happen 

[00:34:14] Wayne: straight away. How many times, and I assume there's a, I'm sure, I assume there's a profile to show what time I did go on and see how many times I did exactly what you just said. and them say that they weren't available. So I'm having a whinge and I'll be having a whinge. 

[00:34:33] Ayrton: As much as I have great sympathy for you, I'm not sure that many of our listeners are going to be too bothered by you missing out on your free tickets to teams you don't even support.

[00:34:44] Ayrton: Well, 

[00:34:44] Wayne: I'm going up to Brisbane and I've got someone up there that wants to go. So I was going to take them and because I know that those tickets are there, they're saying, Oh, well, a few hundred people will have. Well, come on. They gotta be, and their system is the reason why [00:35:00] I didn't get them. Not because I wasn't, I was on before 906.

[00:35:05] Ayrton: I'm actually on the Gold Coast this week too. We can, we can, we can get together. Are you? What are you doing 

[00:35:09] Wayne: up there? You're on the drink again. I don't think I'm... Is it your footy, don't tell me you're going on a reserve grade footy trip. No, it's not a footy trip. 

[00:35:17] Ayrton: Are you? I'm not going on the footy trip.

[00:35:18] Ayrton: Are you going? No, I'm 

[00:35:19] Wayne: not going on the footy trip. I don't think you deserve... No, I'm not going on the footy trip. You know what, for all those people out there. There's, there's times when, like for instance, Mad Monday, there's times you just don't deserve a Mad Monday. I'm not sure you did. You've had three now.

[00:35:34] Wayne: The other thing, if you've, you know, not performed as highly as what you should have and gone as far as what you should have, you probably don't deserve a footy trip either. And, and you've just, you've just, you've taken it all too fast. What are you doing on the Gold 

[00:35:48] Ayrton: Coast? I'm going up to, uh, I've got some mates up there, I'm going to host a function up there.

[00:35:52] Ayrton: So yeah, yes, um, Bond University, uh, their presentation night, so I'll do that. But then I know that my mates will want [00:36:00] to, um, to go on with things, but I'm, I'm just 

[00:36:02] Wayne: not. Did you go to uni? 

[00:36:04] Ayrton: No, I 

[00:36:04] Wayne: did not up there. I went through uni. No, you didn't. I did so, in a stolen car. That's an old gag, it's an old gag. I think Dougie Hawkins used to use that gag.

[00:36:16] Wayne: He went through uni in a stolen car, you know, 

[00:36:18] Ayrton: through. Yeah, I understand what you're saying, yeah. You don't get hangovers, do you? We've spoken about this. No, it's an issue. I just. It's a 

[00:36:24] Wayne: problem. I, 

[00:36:25] Ayrton: I, I don't think. People think it's a strength. I don't think I can put my body through what, like, I can't keep doing it.

[00:36:30] Ayrton: People 

[00:36:30] Wayne: often, um, and those closest to me say they get quite annoyed that I don't get hangovers and it's, and everyone thinks that it's a great strength. It's not. It's because you don't get put off. You can just go, go and go and go. And uh, yeah, so unlike you that pulls up like a, like a shaggy old cat, um, for all those cat lovers out there, sorry, uh, but you, you, you, and sleep's a big factor for me.

[00:36:58] Wayne: I mean, you know, not, you know, not, I [00:37:00] rang you this morning, I'm down here walking Ligon and you're, you're not even out of bed, you're brushing your teeth, which is a good thing. At least you do that. Um. But you've got to get out of bed early. Well you know you're not going to ring me before nine. It's those, it's those, um, sloppy.

[00:37:17] Wayne: Sloppy? Well it is sloppy. Getting out of bed at 9, o'clock in the morning. You know what it is? It's getting yourself into a sloppy routine that you've got to get yourself out of. You go to bed. You go to bed. I reckon you'd is next to your bed. If you'd have an empty coke

[00:37:41] Wayne: can No, don't be stupid I don't drink cocaine and a plate with crumbs all over it Maybe a rum can like a bit of carrot cake still half eaten carrot cake or so. I give you My picture in your oh, no, 

[00:37:53] Ayrton: that's not that's not 

[00:37:54] Wayne: what I'm like at all jar of Vaseline for your eyebrows. Jesus. Tuck them back [00:38:00] in. I was gonna say where are you going with that mate?

[00:38:01] Wayne: No, but I could just picture your bedside table. 

[00:38:04] Ayrton: No, very clean because when you go to party, you gotta, you gotta keep your personal space. Okay. Um, no, it's been, it hasn't been very enjoyable, but no, it's been great, great to see you again. Today duck next week. I'll keep saying this next week. No, I was good last.

[00:38:19] Ayrton: I was good last week wasn't I I was all 

[00:38:20] Wayne: right You're no last week. You're okay. You're dusty again, but just to I go over so I am tipping an upset I'm going with I think GWS can upset the pies and I think that Brisbane will beat the Blues unfortunately for the blue supporters. So it's not a grand final that everyone's going to hope for Might be wrong I've been wrong twice this year.

[00:38:42] Ayrton: We're going to hold you to account. We'll see you again soon on the truth hurts.